Intellectual betterment.

Miyagi

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As for your claim to have an IQ in the top 1% of the tested planet, which test did you use to gain that statistic?

Sugar Puffs quiz 1973

I tell you, that programme last night opened up a whole new world for me! I had no idea all these events and such like went on. I'd have them in an orinteering event though:lmao:

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Sit at the front Maggot!!!
 

dave53

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hi all i have known people with hi iqs and no common sense but do you know what ,as long as they are nice people who cares as my father used to say
not everyone dances to the same beat of the drum and thats okey to regards dave:lmao::theyareon
 

JonathanD

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They are only the British ones since 2007, apart from Ruth Lawrence obviously. If you really want to see scary maths geniuses, Google Maths Olympiad! There are some kids on there who would lose Professor Marcus De Sauto, maybe even Emma, in their work. 1200 from the UK alone!

As for your claim to have an IQ in the top 1% of the tested planet, which test did you use to gain that statistic?

I tell you, that programme last night opened up a whole new world for me! I had no idea all these events and such like went on. I'd have them in an orinteering event though:lmao:

You do realise what the world population is right? If you think that is commonplace or an average statistic then your maths really is rubbish.

And it's not my claim, but from MENSA. 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 03, 04, 06.

Sugar Puffs quiz 1973



-1 for spellinj

Sit at the front Maggot!!!

Now THAT is genius.
 

Miyagi

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hi all i have known people with hi iqs and no common sense but do you know what ,as long as they are nice people who cares as my father used to say
not everyone dances to the same beat of the drum and thats okey to regards dave:lmao::theyareon

That's so sugary, I just brought up some sick...
 

Bushwhacker

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I couldn't begin to describe how my brain works. At work I tend to come up with some off the wall engineering solutions to jobs that would've otherwise been rejected. I'm always met with incredulous looks and comments but my designs always work.
 

Maggot

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You do realise what the world population is right? If you think that is commonplace or an average statistic then your maths really is rubbish.

And it's not my claim, but from MENSA. 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 03, 04, 06.

From Mensa "As different IQ tests were developed, each was given its own scoring system. Therefore, an IQ of 150 is a meaningless claim unless you know the actual test which was used." Mensa. So, I repeat the question, which test did you sit, as unfortunately, in Mensa words, the claim is 'meaningless' without knowledge of the test used. Mensa UK itself uses two different ones. So a quick explanation of the type of test will suffice. As a score on Ravens Standard of 131 would get you in Mensa, but not in the top 1% of the entire planet, but you would need 148 on Catell IIIB. So, which test, and what was the format, and where did you go to get tested for those 12 years?

Oh, and what was your raw scores for those years? You know, just for validation purposes.

That sequence of numbers right in you post, the last three should be 100, 101, 102.

The world population bit, ask Emma, that statistic only works if every person on the planet has been tested (or at least a large representative sample from different cultures, ethnicities and background), and I know for a fact that my son hasn't, nor has my daughter, nor have 3 of the 5 people in my office, I asked them today. I am afraid it sits in with "Did you know 87% of statistics are made up on the spot" for accuracy.
 
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JonathanD

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From Mensa "As different IQ tests were developed, each was given its own scoring system. Therefore, an IQ of 150 is a meaningless claim unless you know the actual test which was used." Mensa. So, I repeat the question, which test did you sit, as unfortunately, in Mensa words, the claim is 'meaningless' without knowledge of the test used. Mensa UK itself uses two different ones. So a quick explanation of the type of test will suffice. As a score on Ravens Standard of 131 would get you in Mensa, but not in the top 1% of the entire planet, but you would need 148 on Catell IIIB. So, which test, and what was the format, and where did you go to get tested for those 12 years?

Oh, and what was your raw scores for those years? You know, just for validation purposes.

That sequence of numbers right in you post, the last three should be 100, 101, 102.

The world population bit, ask Emma, that statistic only works if every person on the planet has been tested (or at least a large representative sample from different cultures, ethnicities and background), and I know for a fact that my son hasn't, nor has my daughter, nor have 3 of the 5 people in my office, I asked them today. I am afraid it sits in with "Did you know 87% of statistics are made up on the spot" for accuracy.

Aston and Reading University during the Nineties, University of London for the latter. As it was MENSA's test, I'm sure they used the same standard throughout. There are other IQ tests that are not run by MESA which is what they are referring to in your quote. It obviously means far more to you than me so you find out which ones used whatever tests during that period, I don't care, and quite frankly can't be arsed looking out the paperwork just to satisfy you. You are the one who posted problems with understanding a TV programme, a woman who is good at maths and the ineffectual grasp that people you don't know may be a bit clever.

At least Emma is up front in looking for a fight. Watch the programme again, and if you don't get it a second time around, don't take it out on those that do.
 
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Maggot

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Aston and Reading University during the Nineties, University of London for the latter. It obviously means far more to you than me so you find out which ones used whatever tests during that period, I don't care, and quite frankly can't be arsed looking out the paperwork. You are the one who posted problems with understanding a TV programme, woman who is good at maths and the ineffectual grasp that people you don't know may be a bit clever.

At least Emma is up front in looking for a fight. Watch the programme again, and if you don't get it a second time around, don't take it out on those that do.

Hey that's cool. For twelve years of your life you were in the top 1% of everyones IQ's on the entire planet, but you can't remember anything about any of it. Did you spend the 2000's as an investigative reporter with The News of The World?

I have said earlier, I do not doubt Emmas intellect, just the claim she is in the best handful of mathematicians in the entire world.

Shall we move on?
 

jerryo

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anyone claiming on a public forum that they have an IQ in the top 1% of the worldwide population needs to have a word with themselves.. nevermind owning up to being a member of Mensa:)
 

JonathanD

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anyone claiming on a public forum that they have an IQ in the top 1% of the worldwide population needs to have a word with themselves.. nevermind owning up to being a member of Mensa:)

You got that right. Anyway. Maggot is not going to let this lie so I found out some paperwork and put a very prolific knife on it that everyone on here knows I only got yesterday, so no copying off the WWW here....

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Seems it was the Cattell Scale 3 B. Satisfied? And yeah, I had forgot. It wasn't that important to me personally but was important for my future prospects at the time I was taking them. The lowest score I got was 148 and the highest 152.
 
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Miyagi

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anyone claiming on a public forum that they have an IQ in the top 1% of the worldwide population needs to have a word with themselves.. nevermind owning up to being a member of Mensa:)

I'm trying to stay out of this maths/IQ argument, but I can actually vouch for JonathanD, as I know his background and to be honest he doesn't have to justify himself on here.

He's one of the best adder men I know, although his long division needs work.

Oh, and I'm clevererer-er than the lot of you.

Liam

aged 7 and a half.
 

Paul_B

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She would argue against that, vehemently, and no doubt will when she sees this. I'll let her explain as it is beyond me. But it is more than memory and has something to do with mathematical probability, odds, chaos and something else she says alot. More than memory involved here. That's why computers win at these games. She has that mind.

Sounds like card counting to me. To put it simply you assign cards numbers and its a case of keeping score. What I mean the higher cards are given a higher number and lower ones a negative number with 2 being the lowest. Basically all the cards range from scores of -3 to +3. That way if its a +ve score then most of the higher cards have gone if its a -ve score then there are more higher values left to come. It allows you to predict when it is best to play the cards. It is actually illegal in Las Vegas I think to do If you use electronic means but they can't stop you doing it in your head IF you have thee right mind to do that. It was developed to cope with the four pack deck shoes that casino's came up with to try to rig things back in their favour after they found out that people were being too successful to be just down to luck or random winning.

It is actually very easy to learn BTW.
 

JonathanD

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Sounds like card counting to me. To put it simply you assign cards numbers and its a case of keeping score. What I mean the higher cards are given a higher number and lower ones a negative number with 2 being the lowest. Basically all the cards range from scores of -3 to +3. That way if its a +ve score then most of the higher cards have gone if its a -ve score then there are more higher values left to come. It allows you to predict when it is best to play the cards. It is actually illegal in Las Vegas I think to do If you use electronic means but they can't stop you doing it in your head IF you have thee right mind to do that. It was developed to cope with the four pack deck shoes that casino's came up with to try to rig things back in their favour after they found out that people were being too successful to be just down to luck or random winning.

It is actually very easy to learn BTW.

Yeah, I know. I can card count and know the Blackjack and chemin de fer formulae, but it ruins the fun completely and requires too much concentration. Emm has fun playing cards but does more than that. It's another few levels I can't understand, and I have tried.
 

Retired Member southey

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Sounds like card counting to me. To put it simply you assign cards numbers and its a case of keeping score. What I mean the higher cards are given a higher number and lower ones a negative number with 2 being the lowest. Basically all the cards range from scores of -3 to +3. That way if its a +ve score then most of the higher cards have gone if its a -ve score then there are more higher values left to come. It allows you to predict when it is best to play the cards. It is actually illegal in Las Vegas I think to do If you use electronic means but they can't stop you doing it in your head IF you have thee right mind to do that. It was developed to cope with the four pack deck shoes that casino's came up with to try to rig things back in their favour after they found out that people were being too successful to be just down to luck or random winning.

It is actually very easy to learn BTW.

I was good at that, my brother came an bought me a suit, we played with some friends at a big table with flashy lights, 278,BANG! Goes the future of ROCK AN ROLL! then I danced with his missus before she dumped him,
 

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