Indeed. I didn't ask to be born White but now I have been advised of this notion of original sin.Too white (whatever that really means) and not woke enough or a member of the alphabet soup.![]()
Indeed. I didn't ask to be born White but now I have been advised of this notion of original sin.Too white (whatever that really means) and not woke enough or a member of the alphabet soup.![]()
Think the answer is just take kids more out into the outdoors, particularly kids in cities.
Interesting article there silverclaws from the Gardian newspaper.(tabloid trash)
Took it with a pinch of salt at first until I searched for New heights hiking club for ethnic minorities & it doesn’t stop there, there’s more?
I can honestly say Ive never heard of an Caucasian hiking club who asked for donations of boots/ jackets ect.etc for at least £100 each item,Just to feel the part, if there was it’d get closed down.
so why do the BAME get preferential clubs.
Do we not have Caucasians in deprived areas.
If more diversity/education is to be bought into the outdoors, then there shouldn’t be one rule for one & none for the other.
This is the wrong way to go, it’ll just breed content & hatred, which leads to conflict.
I honestly feel I have been blinkered for a long time, cheated, lied to, corrupted. All for being excepting to BAME.
Will this change who I am, will I judge people of a different race..well I think I’ll have a somewhat different approach/thoughts from now on after what I’ve seen & read & that’s pretty sad.
Don't allow articles in the news to dictate how you treat others; the writers and publishers have their own agenda - treat everyone as an individual.
If only it were the case without groupings and quotas being necessary. But it isn’t so at least someone is trying to do something about it.Indeed , wouldn't that be a lovely thing. Treat everyone fairly and equally.
I agree with this:
If only it were the case without groupings and quotas being necessary. But it isn’t so at least someone is trying to do something about it.
Your missing the point, some groups are not treated as equal. They don’t have the same opportunities so these groups have cropped up to try and redress the imbalance that exists in favour of white people.
but if we want to talk about left behind white folks, of course there are white poor people too. There are groups to help them
too I’m sure. Even the Kit Collective, spoken about in the article, says this on their website:
“We work with groups which focus on widening inclusion for Black, Asian and ethnic minorities, people with low socio-economic backgrounds and people with disabilities.”
https://www.kitcollective.co.uk/how-we-work
so they aren’t giving black people preferential treatment they are giving all kinds of people who haven’t tended to have had preferential treatment a step up so that they can enjoy some of the privileges that many people take for granted.
I see the donations thing has got to you, the charitable donations, as what is something donated if it is not charity or perhaps even a tax write off or other brand marketing potential - future sales and all that. Where you tell me of ' hill quality' what you would expect for £100, with even military surplus, possibly due to the advent of Bushcraft commanding high prices now or what I would consider high prices on my own low income, to be restrained in even that once affordable option to get 'out there'. To well understand what knowledge of 'good' kit does in terms of motivational potential, particularly so in a brand worshipping culture, where even if folk are doing what for 'the names' it's a start.Interesting article there silverclaws from the Gardian newspaper.(tabloid trash)
Took it with a pinch of salt at first until I searched for New heights hiking club for ethnic minorities & it doesn’t stop there, there’s more?
I can honestly say Ive never heard of an Caucasian hiking club who asked for donations of boots/ jackets ect.etc for at least £100 each item,Just to feel the part, if there was it’d get closed down.
so why do the BAME get preferential clubs.
Do we not have Caucasians in deprived areas.
If more diversity/education is to be bought into the outdoors, then there shouldn’t be one rule for one & none for the other.
This is the wrong way to go, it’ll just breed content & hatred, which leads to conflict.
I honestly feel I have been blinkered for a long time, cheated, lied to, corrupted. All for being excepting to BAME.
Will this change who I am, will I judge people of a different race..well I think I’ll have a somewhat different approach/thoughts from now on after what I’ve seen & read & that’s pretty sad.
Newspapermen thrive on the conflict they create for newspapermen to be responsible for most of the divisions that exist in society.Actually I think we are in agreement; there's nothing wrong with the Kit Collective initiative - after all, we're the first to criticize people going into the hills unprepared and with poor kit; it's the way the article portrayed it that rankled me. I think articles like that do far more harm than good - but, maybe, that was the writer's intension![]()
I was here over a decade ago.
(But of course I dont look very female)
As I said earlier on..newspaper trash.Your missing the point, some groups are not treated as equal. They don’t have the same opportunities so these groups have cropped up to try and redress the imbalance that exists in favour of white people.
but if we want to talk about left behind white folks, of course there are white poor people too. There are groups to help them
too I’m sure. Even the Kit Collective, spoken about in the article, says this on their website:
“We work with groups which focus on widening inclusion for Black, Asian and ethnic minorities, people with low socio-economic backgrounds and people with disabilities.”
https://www.kitcollective.co.uk/how-we-work
so they aren’t giving black people preferential treatment they are giving all kinds of people who haven’t tended to have had preferential treatment a step up so that they can enjoy some of the privileges that many people take for granted.
I worked with a group of refugee women who had been so traumatised that the sight of a man in uniform had them literally wetting themselves.
Now admitedly that is an extreme example, but safe spaces are no joke.