English Rose - My First Attempt – My First Knife – See It In The Making - TRACY

[Englishrose222]

This is my first attempt at making a knife. I think it’s called a bushy.
It is made of 01 carbon steel, 3mm thick, 30mm wide with an over length of 220mm. It’s still in the stage of ground flat stock, with a little bit of shape and design with nothing else done. Could you help me with the next stage. I want to achieve a pretty and pleasing shape by adding wooden scales, whilst having a blade that is as strong as an ox. I’d love to hear from you if you can help or advise and I would hope to sell it when it is finished.

Tracy

 

[Andy]

looking good

I always like seeing how things progress

 

[Dougster]

http://www.greenpete.co.uk/

This is excellent, I got the link from someone here, hope it helps.

 

[Phil562]

Look forward to seeing the end result, you never know I may be tempted to make you an offer

 

[Ogri the trog]

Could you help me with the next stage.

Well Tracy,
In its simplest form, you just remove any metal that is not knife shaped. Then add some wood to either side and remove any of that, that isn't handle shaped. In between there'll be some bits that involve getting it hot and cold, but in essence - thats it.
I look forward to see the steps as you progress, I'm hoping your efforts will be an inspiration to many others to give it a go.

All the Best

Ogri the trog

 

[tilly]

hi it is looking great you can use a bench grinder to shape this and when you get to your lines. then use a file to finish up to your lines .

 

[Englishrose222]

Hi Phill Im so pleased to see you here at last a BIG BIG WELCOME from me and hugs and kisses you will be right at home here Sorry i didnt reply before im still finding my way around with messages ive only just found looks like ive got some catching up to do speak soon :You_Rock_ Tracy

 

[leon-1]

Ogri has pretty much covered it, use files to take it down to the blade blank shape that you require, this is also a good time to drill holes for your pins and lanyard if you are going to have one. When you are happy start work on the edge bevels (once again using files), work on the sides alternately. When the edge is about 1mm thick stop using the files because when you heat treat it could just chip or break of in areas.

After this comes HT, initially you will require to harden the knife, effectivley heat till it is dull cherry red and then quench in oil if using O1. Vegetable oil will do.

Next comes tempering the blade you can do this by placeing the knife in a domestic oven at a set temperature, the reason you wish to temper the knife is to make it a bit more flexible and resilient to impact (after hardening it is very brittle). Point to note is to clean off any swarf or remaining oil residue before you place it in an oven, otherwise your house will smell for a fair period of time .

Then you will be on the final stage really, grind the remainder of the bevels and fit scales, a little last minute sharpening and a polish and hey presto your done.

 

[C_Claycomb]

lifted from sticky at start of this forum
There is enough information out there in books and on the Net that you can go as deeply into the subject as you want. Here follow some links to the more useful sites that I have come across, there are doubtless many more.

Forums
www.britishblades.com
www.bladeforums.com
http://www.knifenetwork.com/forum/

Tutorials
One way of doing a hidden tang
http://www.britishblades.com/home/a...&showarticle=23
And another
http://www.britishblades.com/home/a...&showarticle=27

Here is a good tutorial by our own Klenchblaize on fitting slab handles. Entertaining AND informative
http://www.deerstalker.com/stalker2.htm

Nick Wheeler's tutorial for handle slabs, with photos.
http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/cache/a...nw1/scales1.htm

Mortice tangs. The same things can be done with files and sandpaper and sharp chisels
http://www.primosknives.com/article...sed_tangs_1.htm

Compendiums of articles and instructions
Bob Engnath’s site, gives step by step instructions on nearly all aspects of knife making.
http://www.engnath.com/public/manframe.htm

A little more advanced, info on making equipment too
http://www.knivesby.com/knifemaking.html

While web sites are good, I think that the books of Wayne Goddard (Wonder of Knifemaking, and The $50 knife shop) and the Barney & Loveless book How to Make Knives are the best source for step by step instruction.

You would probably do better to go search British Blades and find someone on there willing to do the heat treating for you. Its not particularly difficult, but it does require a little more kit and practice to do it right.

I don't suppose that you will be able to make it to the Bushmoot this weekend? If things go to plan there will be some knife making demo stuff going on there.

 

[Englishrose222]

What size and kind of rivets should i use to secure my scales to my new blade?

Tracy

 

[tilly]

hi sweet i use 6mm brass rod and tube from BQ . tilly :You_Rock_

 

[Englishrose222]

Hi Phil

As i've never done this before - i need to make sure i am clear on these points. The 6mm tube is that for a lanyard and the 6mm brass rod, do you cut that to size and peen it over with a ball peen hammer.

Tracy

 

[tilly]

hi i cut the lanyard tube and pins about 4 mm over size then when glue has set grind them flat to the wood can i say befor fitting scales score them with a sharp knife this gives the resin something to hold on to ok .

 

[Englishrose222]

Sorry, i just saw your PM, okay, so the glue you refer to, is this epoxy? It's late now Phil - i have to get in the bath and do my nails Back to work tomorrow - i'll speak with you here tomorrow evening. have great fun in your introductions - i know you will. Bye for now.

Tracy

 

[tilly]

hi tracy yes good night

 

[kb31]

hi tracy your knife looks like mine a woodlander off ben orford there on the woodsmoke site he might be willing to help you how dos pm work? don't worry am not clocking on to you (cumbria speak)

 

[Englishrose222]

Hi Peter

Thank you for all your offers, even the smallest piece of information is a very big help to me, even little things like Tilly said in his thread to me last night, score the brass pins and lanyard tube before you glue them - now i would not have known that and this is the kind of thing that can easily be overlooked when someone is telling you who already knows how to do it. I'm off for my supper for an hour - talk later.

Tracy

 

[tilly]

hi how's the knife getting on looking good i bet just wanted to say score the wood before fitting to. to score my pins i use a small tube cutter the same plumbers use go round the pin this will score it then move it down a few mill and do it again untill you get to the bottom then cut it of with the same tool when you put the resin in it goes into the score marks and the only way to get them out when dry is to smash the knife to bits lol hope this helps tilly.

 

[tilly]

got your name wrong sorry uppy_dog

 

[Englishrose222]

Hi Phil,

I'm still watching out for all the little tricks and secrets that people have when making their knife , just like yours and it is beginning to make me feel a little more confident. I think i have got the basic shape to the knife, which is just the outline, not much more than the first picture i started with on the thread. So what should be the next step - do i put an edge on the blade - i've already been lucky enough to have other people teling me as well, but i never mind being told the same thing more than once - i find it reassuring. Would you like me to do a photograph of the next stage?

Tracy