Xylaria,xylaria said:I am not directly saying it is a gender thing. It is a kit marketed for women is normally terrible thing, which in turn can put some women off. It obviously doesn't put every woman off as Mrs woodsmoke proves. Torjusgs joke(?) about checking to see if your missus is female I found really offensive. No human being should have their gender questioned just because they refuse to comply with narrow mind steriotype of what they should be, I am very glad that there is people like Axecatcher that shove those steriotypes back up where they came from. In fact big chunks of this thread have got me a bit annoyed.
IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE YOUR WIVES AND GIRLFRIENDS IN BUSHCRAFT YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THE TYPES OF BEHAVIOUR THAT MAKES THEM FEEL EXCLUDED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
This not a issue of gender it is an issue of inclusion. It is not ok to tell racist jokes because it makes people feel excluded so why is ok to tell sexist jokes.
I hope not my contibutions?
I took torus' joke as a (humorous) dig at me (for showing off about my wonderful GF - which I do - all the time) not BB (few would be foolish enough to do that)!
He followed up with "you are a lucky guy". I am! I have to say that those members of this forum that have ever been out with us (LS, Mod-User, Spikey Da Pikey, GreyWolf, Bushwacker Bob et al) have never behaved in any way other than as complete gentlemen.
I do take your point however, if you want your partner to participate in outings, their needs are as important as your own. Fortunately in my case, I don't need to "encourage" BB, she enjoys being out the same as I do - I wouldn't have it any other way!
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