That and the advent of Google. If you need a knife you can refine your hits by entering 'bushcraft knife' rather than just 'knife' for instance.
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bushcrafters or gear geeks?
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That and the advent of Google. If you need a knife you can refine your hits by entering 'bushcraft knife' rather than just 'knife' for instance.
From my perspective I am new to bushcraft so without a wealth of experience I buy kit that has been recommended as long as it is within my budget.
Certain stuff such as my Mora Clipper is cheap and I bought this as it is highly rated and in a novices hands even if it gets trashed it is not to expensive to replace.
My Small Forest Axe is exactly opposite to that because any axe is expensive to replace and I feel it is probably better to learn with a tool that if looked after will last forever.
I now have the same approach with mechanics tools having spend pounds on cheap stuff from Aldi etc I am now a bit of a tool geek and only buy the best I can afford as it saves paying for it again.
I guess a lot of what people carry is down to personal choice given the finances and the experience to buy kit just to review it and test it then decide is sadly not a privelege I can see myself being in any time soon.
Certain stuff such as my Mora Clipper is cheap and I bought this as it is highly rated and in a novices hands even if it gets trashed it is not to expensive to replace.
My Small Forest Axe is exactly opposite to that because any axe is expensive to replace and I feel it is probably better to learn with a tool that if looked after will last forever.
I now have the same approach with mechanics tools having spend pounds on cheap stuff from Aldi etc I am now a bit of a tool geek and only buy the best I can afford as it saves paying for it again.
I guess a lot of what people carry is down to personal choice given the finances and the experience to buy kit just to review it and test it then decide is sadly not a privelege I can see myself being in any time soon.
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Maybe a few of you are in the same boat as me.
I spent years with very little money but still managed to do my various hobbys,so now im better off im sure im going to spend a little bit on good gear.
Im a great one for you get what you pay for( within reason )
Soloman
I spent years with very little money but still managed to do my various hobbys,so now im better off im sure im going to spend a little bit on good gear.
Im a great one for you get what you pay for( within reason )
Soloman
Is it? I wasn't aware of a bushcraft agenda that anyone had to subscribe to. The only thing I was aware of was that you had to enjoy it (no point in doing it otherwise).
Actually, I DO think of myself as a camper. Seems to me that 'bushcraft' is what they now call what we used to do 10 or more years ago.
And not just there either. The whole 'bushcraft' concept is a commercial label. If you use the term 'bushcraft' at any point I firmly believe you are buying into a marketable concept.
Quite.
Not really sure what point you are trying to make, to be honest Pete. Well, not that I don't know what point you are trying to make (that's pretty clear), just don't see the point of your point. I read all you have to say and all I'm left thinking is, 'so what?' If YOU don't like all the kit then, well, don't buy it. Don't read the kit threads either. Was that really a difficult solution?
If you don't like the way you preceive bushcraft has been polluted by kit and think you are some purest, then you need to get over yourself. What makes you think you are right? What makes you think anyone's interested in your observations? What makes you think they make any difference?
It's like this. I can't abide football. I really can't. So I don't watch Match of the Day, and I don't read tabloids. I don't follow the gossip either. I could mouth off quite pleasurably how much I dislike football, but what's the point? It's just my opinion. And we all have opinions.
"What makes you think anyone's interested in your observations?"
Durulz, think before you type - in answer to your question above, probably the 44 previous posts would make him think people are interested in what he has to say...
chill out dude, the guy was just having a rant and is free to have an opinion as well, why dont you take your own advice and just not read the thread if it upsets you so, As Tony says you can always block it with the arrows.
Now thats my rant at you over Durulz, can you forgive me for being a cheeky monkey, if not im leaving this forum and joining a "LOVE EVERYONE FORUM" i bet no one would shout at me there...
All the best Colin
Durulz, think before you type - in answer to your question above, probably the 44 previous posts would make him think people are interested in what he has to say...
chill out dude, the guy was just having a rant and is free to have an opinion as well, why dont you take your own advice and just not read the thread if it upsets you so, As Tony says you can always block it with the arrows.
Now thats my rant at you over Durulz, can you forgive me for being a cheeky monkey, if not im leaving this forum and joining a "LOVE EVERYONE FORUM" i bet no one would shout at me there...
All the best Colin
The minute you set out with the intention of sleeping out you have gone camping, you are a camper.
We were doing this type of camping back in the Scouts in the 60's, back then it was camping, camp craft and woodsman ship then up crops this 'bushcraft' label and all of a sudden its a trendy pastime. Thats all this is, a pastime, a tiny proportion of those taking part will make a living from it (and I mean tiny) and contrary to popular belief we ain't some sort of nobel Jedi bushcraft masters; what we should be is just a bunch of happy chappie campers. You might not like someone calling you a camper but tough, thats what you are, a camper who may have knowledge of other outdoor areas such as wild food.
Its your money so buy what you want, what I don't like is the peer pressure put on newbies to buy the gucci kit, that really pees me off.
Hi De Hi
We were doing this type of camping back in the Scouts in the 60's, back then it was camping, camp craft and woodsman ship then up crops this 'bushcraft' label and all of a sudden its a trendy pastime. Thats all this is, a pastime, a tiny proportion of those taking part will make a living from it (and I mean tiny) and contrary to popular belief we ain't some sort of nobel Jedi bushcraft masters; what we should be is just a bunch of happy chappie campers. You might not like someone calling you a camper but tough, thats what you are, a camper who may have knowledge of other outdoor areas such as wild food.
Its your money so buy what you want, what I don't like is the peer pressure put on newbies to buy the gucci kit, that really pees me off.
Hi De Hi
screw being a bushcrafter, i want to be a" nobel Jedi bushcraft master" thats way cooler, we could have conversations about what kind of grind does your lightsaber have and is your jedi cloak ventile.
happy i would be - mmmmmmmm young luke.....
Colin
happy i would be - mmmmmmmm young luke.....
Colin
Sad part is Colin, I think some already think they are, the force is strong in their carved spoons
oh hell what have you done to me mate, i will go to sleep with visions of ray mears complete with the princess leia hairdo with the big curley side thingys.
i need help!!!!!!!
Colin
i need help!!!!!!!
Colin
Edit- so they dont cart me away in a straight jacket - for ray mears read first nation chick that was doing the cedar weaving with ray last night - mmmmm
Colin
Colin
i dont have alot of kit but what i do have didnt cost much the most ££ i got were a pair of gaitors lol!
I dont mind so long as A im warm B it lasts and C easy to find parts/replace no point having a stove ect £100 ect and something silly fails on it and you cant fix it or bodge it to last the trip
I dont mind so long as A im warm B it lasts and C easy to find parts/replace no point having a stove ect £100 ect and something silly fails on it and you cant fix it or bodge it to last the trip
Stoves are easy to fix, don't fail much if you know how to look after them, I've got some over 90 years old and still working
Ah, the perennial argument! I suppose it was about due to come around again...
Any of our resident anthropologists have any ideas about how much time your typical hunter-gatherers spend talking about their kit? I wonder how many heated arguments were had about the relative merits of these new-fangled barbed and tanged arrow heads? I bet that one ran for centuries...
Any of our resident anthropologists have any ideas about how much time your typical hunter-gatherers spend talking about their kit? I wonder how many heated arguments were had about the relative merits of these new-fangled barbed and tanged arrow heads? I bet that one ran for centuries...
Thats primarily the reason i get Army Surplus. mostly its made to last and so it'll stand up to what you need it to do. price wise surplus varies and don't get me started on the mish mosh of camo patterns i have lol.
still it does the job and thats what counts
Actually case in point. i own one of these:
http://www.soviet-propaganda.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_24&products_id=1
i have a contact in St Petersburg that gets em direct from the Sposn Factory. they're treated duck cotton, totally wind proof and rain resistant!
its also bomb proof, seriously if i was caught in a nuclear blast i reckon the jacket would be the only thing left!
as you can see they're $120 before shipping from russia shipping is usually $60 or so. so around £102 for the full set. although if you contact the guy on the site he should be able to do just the jacket if you wish.
expensive in my eyes as that kind of money is not easily available to me but well worth it for what i'd consider "Gucci" gear
nice , i like that bud ...
LOLS i can see it now:
P: "excuse me sir, is that your knife?" asked the policeman.
Me: "these aren't the bushcrafters your looking for, move along"
P: (woodenly) "These aren't the bushcrafters we're looking for, move along!"
Hehe
GSFgaz: they're good aren't they m8? flippin bomb proof and comes in allsorts of colours even DPM! although they call it "smog" the ruskies like ripping off other people camo, they figure the more they have the better suited they'll be to any terrain.
P: "excuse me sir, is that your knife?" asked the policeman.
Me: "these aren't the bushcrafters your looking for, move along"
P: (woodenly) "These aren't the bushcrafters we're looking for, move along!"
Hehe
GSFgaz: they're good aren't they m8? flippin bomb proof and comes in allsorts of colours even DPM! although they call it "smog" the ruskies like ripping off other people camo, they figure the more they have the better suited they'll be to any terrain.
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