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Oh great... you had to go and do it didn't you Togaboy:nono:

Why did you have to mention sausage and mash???? :rant:

By his own hand Father's told me that the merest mention of that dish literally turns him into a slavering idiot :nofeed:

Now John and I are going to have to chain him to a tree whilst we're at the moot and throw sausages at him until he regains his senses :bluThinki
 
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Goatboy

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Oh great... you had to go and do it didn't you Togaboy:nono:

Why did you have to mention sausage and mash???? :rant:

By his own hand Father's told me that the merest mention of that dish literally turns him into a slavering idiot :nofeed:

Now John and I are going to have to chain him to a tree whilst we're at the moot and throw sausages at him until he regains his senses :bluThinki

Be thankful I didn't mention the eel, pie and mash shop in Larndon that he used to drool over. (Opps I just did) He'' be like a Viking berserker now, gnawing on his shield and shouting "SAUSAGES" as he rampages around the Naughty Corner. Sorry about that, hopefully he'll get tired and full and have a wee nap after feeding.
 

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We used to have a similar thing to tawse at school! Without the fringey bits though, I remember getting it across the hands but they couldn't do lasses across the bum.... bent over and wriggling as we recieved a punishment must have been considered a trifle risque but it was ok to do it to the boys..... mmmmm that'll be about right for the heart of conservative england in the 70s then ;)

I love my dysfunctional family. You're actually quite a lot saner than the real one tbh- mine used willow canes at the least opportunity! and nowhere near as judgemental ;) Feckin LOVE you guys x
 

Biker

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(sniff sniff) did someone mention sausage and mash in a posting near here?

:aargh4: FEED ME!!!! Feed me now.

We had the cane at our school, but I never knew if it existed or not because I managed to make it through my entire formal educational years without being on the receiving end of it. The mere threat was enough to keep me on the straight and narrow. We did have a Maths teacher though who was chalk dust covered and habitually wore tweed who would reminisce about the good ol' days when he would use his Humdinger aka bumstinger on his errant students. The man would have been right at home in Tom Brown's schooldays. I'm sure he was several sandwiches short of a picnic.

In closing I just wanted to say "We wuv you too TurboGoil."

Zeppelins eh? If man were meant to fly... :nono:
 

TurboGirl

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We had the cane at our school, but I never knew if it existed or not because I managed to make it through my entire formal educational years without being on the receiving end of it.
Brother mine, you obviously weren't trying hard enough! :D It was a weekly event for me, I was rather a tearaway and recieved enough from a very victorian and disciplinarian father for the schools attempts to be barely a tickle in comparison ;) We should invent a good cyber-lie upbringing to scare the wee ones with!

I would kill to create sausages at home again... I did it for a while and they were smashing, irish white pudding too as its nigh on unobtainable locally. They feel to pieces a bit but were gorgeous, though I made an awful mess of dead animal in the kitchen when I did it :D Hmmm I could both remove the objections and fulfil my makey urge by producing some long pig cumberlands..... ;)
 
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Oh great... you had to go and do it didn't you Togaboy:nono:

Why did you have to mention sausage and mash???? :rant:

By his own hand Father's told me that the merest mention of that dish literally turns him into a slavering idiot :nofeed:

Now John and I are going to have to chain him to a tree whilst we're at the moot and throw sausages at him until he regains his senses :bluThinki
A catapult would give us a better safety distance ... and be more fun!
 

TurboGirl

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Ohhh I so can't wait to see the moot pic threads of this *ahem* interesting experiment! I'd contribute a roll of duct tape and some cable ties to add to the family fun :D Why invent what can be done for real, after all!
 
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[video]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ad6T8WvcQes[/video]Here's harry hill with a suitably bushcrafty skit, John Fenna appears about 3 minutes in. Smoke me a kipper Cleauseo!
 
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Biker

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Bit slow on this thread so here's me chipping in my modest contribution.

On this day in 1876 General George Armstrong got his butt handed to him by several native American Indians at Little Big Horn.

Info shamelessly copied and pasted ( i.e. stolen) from Wikipedia

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By the time of Custer's expedition to the Black Hills in 1874, the level of conflict and tension between the U.S. and many of the Plains Indians tribes (including the Lakota Sioux and the Cheyenne) had become exceedingly high. Americans continually broke treaty agreements and advanced further westward, resulting in violence and acts of depredation by both sides. To take possession of the Black Hills (and thus the gold deposits), and to stop Indian attacks, the U.S. decided to corral all remaining free Plains Indians. The Grant government set a deadline of January 31, 1876 for all Lakota and Arapaho wintering in the "unceded territory" to report to their designated agencies (reservations) or be considered "hostile".[SUP][34][/SUP]
The 7th Cavalry departed from Fort Lincoln on May 17, 1876, part of a larger army force planning to round up remaining free Indians. Meanwhile, in the spring and summer of 1876, the Hunkpapa Lakota holy man Sitting Bull had called together the largest ever gathering of Plains Indians at Ash Creek, Montana (later moved to the Little Bighorn River) to discuss what to do about the whites.[SUP][35][/SUP] It was this united encampment of Lakota, Northern Cheyenne, and Arapaho Indians that the 7th met at the Battle of the Little Bighorn.


On June 25, some of Custer's Crow Indian scouts identified what they claimed was a large Indian encampment along the Little Bighorn River. Custer divided his forces into three battalions: one led by Major Marcus Reno, one by Captain Frederick Benteen, and one by himself. Captain Thomas M. McDougall and Company B were with the pack train. Benteen was sent south and west, to cut off any attempted escape by the Indians, Reno was sent north to charge the southern end of the encampment, and Custer rode north, hidden to the east of the encampment by bluffs, and planning to circle around and attack from the north.[SUP][36][/SUP][SUP][37][/SUP]
Reno began a charge on the southern end of the village, but halted some 500–600 yards short of the camp, and had his men dismount and form a skirmish line.[SUP][38][/SUP] They were soon overcome by mounted Lakota and Cheyenne warriors who counterattacked en masse against Reno's exposed left flank,[SUP][39][/SUP] forcing Reno and his men to take cover in the trees along the river. Eventually, however, this position became untenable and the troopers were forced into a bloody retreat up onto the bluffs above the river, where they made their own stand.[SUP][40][/SUP][SUP][41][/SUP]This, the opening action of the battle, cost Reno a quarter of his command.
Custer may have seen Reno stop and form a skirmish line as Custer led his command to the northern end of the main encampment, where he apparently planned to sandwich the Indians between his attacking troopers and Reno's command in a "hammer and anvil" maneuver.[SUP][42][/SUP] According to Grinnell's account, based on the testimony of the Cheyenne warriors who survived the fight,[SUP][43][/SUP] at least part of Custer's command attempted to ford the river at the north end of the camp but were driven off by stiff resistance from Indian sharpshooters firing from the brush along the west bank of the river. From that point the soldiers were pursued by hundreds of warriors onto a ridge north of the encampment. Custer and his command were prevented from digging in by Crazy Horse, however, whose warriors had outflanked him and were now to his north, at the crest of the ridge.[SUP][44][/SUP] Traditional white accounts attribute to Gall the attack that drove Custer up onto the ridge, but Indian witnesses have disputed that account.[SUP][45][/SUP]

"Hurrah boys, we've got them! We'll finish them up and then go home to our station."

—Famous words reportedly said by General Custer shortly before being killed.[SUP][46][/SUP]

For a time, Custer's men appear to have been deployed by company, in standard cavalry fighting formation—the skirmish line, with every fourth man holding the horses, though this arrangement would have robbed Custer of a quarter of his firepower. Worse, as the fight intensified, many soldiers could have taken to holding their own horses or hobbling them, further reducing the 7th's effective fire. When Crazy Horse and White Bull mounted the charge that broke through the center of Custer's lines, pandemonium may have broken out among the soldiers of Calhoun's command,[SUP][47][/SUP] though Myles Keogh's men seem to have fought and died where they stood. According to some Lakota accounts, many of the panicking soldiers threw down their weapons[SUP][48][/SUP] and either rode or ran towards the knoll where Custer, the other officers, and about 40 men were making a stand. Along the way, the warriors rode them down, counting coup by striking the fleeing troopers with their quirts or lances.[SUP][49][/SUP]
Initially, Custer had 208 officers and men under his command, with an additional 142 under Reno, just over 100 under Benteen, 50 soldiers with Captain McDougall's rearguard, and 84 soldiers under 1st Lieutenant Edward Gustave Mathey with the pack train. The Lakota-Cheyenne coalition may have fielded over 1800 warriors.[SUP][50][/SUP] Historian Gregory Michno settles on a low number around 1000 based on contemporary Lakota testimony, but other sources place the number at 1800 or 2000, especially in the works by Utley and Fox. The 1800–2000 figure is substantially lower than the higher numbers of 3000 or more postulated by Ambrose, Gray, Scott, and others. Some of the other participants in the battle gave these estimates:

  • Spotted Horn Bull – 5,000 braves and chiefs
  • Maj. Reno – 2,500 to 5,000 warriors
  • Capt. Moylan – 3,500 to 4,000
  • Lt. Hare – not under 4,000
  • Lt. Godfrey – minimum between 2,500 and 3,000
  • Lt. Edgerly – 4,000
  • Lt. Varnum – not less than 4,000
  • Sgt. Kanipe – fully 4,000
  • George Herendeen – fully 3,000
  • Fred Gerard – 2,500 to 3,000
An average of the above is 3,500 warriors and chiefs.[SUP][51][/SUP]
As the troopers were cut down, the native warriors stripped the dead of their firearms and ammunition, with the result that the return fire from the cavalry steadily decreased, while the fire from the Indians constantly increased. The surviving troopers apparently shot their remaining horses to use as breastworks for a final stand on the knoll at the north end of the ridge. The warriors closed in for the final attack and killed every man in Custer's command. As a result, the Battle of the Little Bighorn has come to be popularly known as "Custer's Last Stand".
 

Biker

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OMG!!!! Now I know I'm in the "Twilight zone", I mean like you know dejavu an all dat ting ya naw.


Oops, accidentally dropped my IQ, how clumsy of me.


Hmmmmm, I see what you mean. I should have double checked page two of this thread because there it is ol' Colonel Custard beaming right back at me. Sorry for the repost. It was my first factoid contribution to this so give your ol' Pa a break eh? Put it down to my advanced years.
 

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Tis easily done, especially with the mountains of factoids contained within these hallowed pages. :)

On this day in 1804 - The Lewis and Clark Expedition reached the mouth of the Kansas River after completing a westward trek of nearly 400 river miles.

Lewis and Clark Expedition and the Kansas River
From: Encyclopedia of the Lewis and Clark Expedition.

The Kansas River flows from its headwaters at Junction City, Kansas, to meet the Missouri River near present-day Kansas City. The Lewis and Clark Expedition reached the mouth of the Kansas River on June 26, 1804, having taken 44 days to travel the 366 miles from Camp Dubois on the Wood River.

While the men repaired the pirogues, Captains Meriwether Lewis and William Clark fixed the location of the river junction on their maps and measured the width of the two rivers. The Kansas was found to be 230 yards wide, while the Missouri measured 500 yards. Lewis also weighed measures of water from the rivers and found the Missouri water to be heavier—that is, carrying more mud. Clark noted the great number of deer along the banks and wrote, "The Countrey about the mouth of this river is verry fine." He also "observed a great number of Parrot queets this evening." (These were Carolina parakeets, now extinct.)

It was during their stop at the Kansas River that, on the night of June 28, Privates John Collins and Hugh Hall stole and drank enough of the expedition's whiskey to make them both drunk. A court-martial was convened, with Sergeant Nathaniel Pryor presiding and four privates on the panel. They found both men guilty and sentenced Collins to receive 100 lashes, while Hall received 50.

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Hmmmmm, I see what you mean. I should have double checked page two of this thread because there it is ol' Colonel Custard beaming right back at me. Sorry for the repost. It was my first factoid contribution to this so give your ol' Pa a break eh? Put it down to my advanced years.
I enjoyed it Pa, was a bit of time travel as it reminded me of the strange fashion for pictorial Y fronts in the 70's. I had a set of underwear depicting that very battle and General Custer was depicted on my posterior getting his handed to him by said braves. Were dashed uncomfortable things being made of nylon (a bit sweaty) and were a present from one of my slightly dotty Grandmothers. He really was an overconfident twit was General Custer. Have read quite a few accounts of the battle and it could've turned out very differently. I was considered a funny kid by my peers as I always rooted for the Indians whenever I saw a Western. Always loved reading about Indian culture as a nipper, they really were a fantastic and interesting group of people.


Uncle Kelly, Lewis & Clark; always thought it sounded like a company selling stationary products but a brilliant read some of the accounts of their journey. Cheers for the reminder to go back and have a re-read through some of my history books.


Cousin Pedro, have you had a slow day or were the numbers calling again. (Did you go through and count all that up or is there a thread tool that told you?) It may have caused the brain fart from which your IQ slippage occurred. Though even if halved would still be pretty high I reckon! (Gosh I'm being nice to Cousin Pedro instead of winding him up! I may be sick myself:confused:).

I see the thought of Pa in a weakened state has brought of the predatory nature of Mesquite and Mr Fenna. (And him a renowned explorer too!)
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(Hope Mr Fenna doesn't mind my alteration, all explained in this thread HERE)

Still it'll be fun wrapping Pa up in his Tommee Tippee bib and throwing bangers, mash and gravy at him. Though maybe filling a childs paddling pool and filling it with said repast may be a better idea as he could wallow there happily during the quieter times of the MOOT. Now there would be a picture.

Better skedaddle for now as I'm in a coffee shop and have to order another coffee.

Speak soon family,
GB.
 

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greetings everyone, i am at some point someway gonna try and read through this huge thread and join the madness
 

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