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What's your view on the way the suspect bears are hunted afterwards bb? As an outsider it's strikes me as completely unnecessary and cruel, obviously I don't live with these creatures day in day out though.

It's like folk saying if you don't want to get eaten by a shark then don't go in the sea, people living in bear country must have the same thoughts ?

Generaly a large predator whether a bear, leopard or tiger will only attack a human if it is unhealthy or desparate, these "man eaters" once caught generaly have injurys which prevent them from hunting their normal prey. there was an author called Jim corbett who used to hunt maneaters and publish his stories about them, nearly in every case their was somthing wrong with the individual maneater which caused it to go for humans.
 
Yes, I was talking of the swedish bears. I have no knowledge of the US; but judging by conversations with US/Canadians I is possible to buy a "tag" to hunt bears in some areas...

The operative phrase here is "in some areas." When you lump the US and Canada together you're including about 3/4 of an entire continent. The bear population (and indeed the very ecosystem) varies greatly across that area. Here in Florida there are no Grizzlies (and to my knowledge there never were) Black Bear populations are improving but they are still protected as of now. In many states however there is a huntable population. Grizzly on the other hand are protected in all of the lower 48 which do have them and can only be hunted in Alaska. I expect that given the size of Canada, the situation is similarly diverse and varied there.
 
Generaly a large predator whether a bear, leopard or tiger will only attack a human if it is unhealthy or desparate, these "man eaters" once caught generaly have injurys which prevent them from hunting their normal prey...

Grizzly are a breed apart. From what I've read and gathered from talking to those in Grizzly country. They have a very aggressive nature.; I beleive you're right in that they don't deliberately "hunt" humans unless something is wrong; however upon a chance encounter they may very well attack just as a simple matter of dominance. Not always, but Grizzlies are an apex predator that generally fears absolutely nothing.
 
The amount of bears in the swedish nature is - in this respect - still wildly below such limits. The amount of wolves, however, has reach the limit for what is calculated as optimum population - and a few has been legally hunted.

Currently there have been talks in Finland on giving more licenses to shoot the excess bears. Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry is ready to give permissions to shoot 243 bears this year; this is about 16 % of the estimated population of 1660–1780 bears. Again, more licenses are also given to wolf hunters who could shoot twenty wolfs this year. This is also about 10 % of the population. Interesting enough they issue less permits for the prey animals than the top predators as only about 5 % of the current grey seal population can be hunted.
 
Generaly a large predator whether a bear, leopard or tiger will only attack a human if it is unhealthy or desparate, these "man eaters" once caught generaly have injurys which prevent them from hunting their normal prey. there was an author called Jim corbett who used to hunt maneaters and publish his stories about them, nearly in every case their was somthing wrong with the individual maneater which caused it to go for humans.

The Polar Bear is an exception. It will actively hunt humans.
 
Lloyd over on SOTP posted this, made me chuckle ....

[video=youtube;JJAVe57yH-o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJAVe57yH-o&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 
Some say the American constitution guarantees the right to bear arms, but I would say does it guarantee the right to arm bears?
 
First of all, I feel for the families and communities affected by these incidents and understand how quickly a climate of fear can emerge, especially amongst sometimes isolated communities such as the second example posted by bb07.

The two examples differ greatly though, the first appearing to be a lumberjack or woodsman who was attacked when he surprised a mother and cubs, the second, an elderly lady who had previously complained of bears frequenting the area of her home. Both appear to be of First Nation origin and are probably accustomed to seeing bears and familiar with the lore. It's tragic when such things occur and even more so in a community where everyone knows everyone else.

I find the human reaction to such incidents to be invariably disproportionate though; the hunt for tigers which went on for months following an attack upon a woman in an Assam village, resulting in the first confirmed tiger sightings in the area for over 30 years coming in the form of 3 kills; a wolf pack wiped out in an American National Park after attacks on cattle:

It isn't too long ago that I read of concerns regarding a worrying decline in the numbers of black bears in British Columbia, and if disproportionate measures are taken upon an already declining population without proper research into why increasing numbers are being seen in suburban environments or rural communities, and we're informed in the second video that 1,000 intrusive bears are killed in BC every year -that's over 10,000 bears killed since the last fatal attack on a human in 2000, it massively increases the possibility of the decline going exponential.

I too have heard the anecdote that more people are killed in Britain by spooked cattle than are killed by bears in North America. Just how true that is, I'd be reluctant to comment, but I can see how a Toonie walking a dog through a field of stirks could be removed from the gene pool, so qualifying for entry to The Darwin Awards. http://www.darwinawards.com/ I once escaped that distinction only due to running straight through a fairly healthy hawthorn hedge from a longhorn bull.

I find this post interesting with relevance to the arguments of some that bears (European Black Bears), not to mention wolves and lynx, should be reintroduced to Scotland. I would dearly love to see redress to the damage done over the last couple of centuries to the environment of my country, and the return of fauna eradicated by loss of habitat and persecution, but we haven't the biodiversity to support even marginal populations, so I'll leave to your imagination just what the outcome of such plans are likely to be, although a "Nature Bites Back" scenario might be a solution to our problem of idiots going out into the countryside and trashing everything in sight.

Great strides are being made in regeneration of natural woodlands and other habitats, but there are vast areas of Scotland where you can walk for a couple of days and count the trees without even having to take your shoes and socks off.

Maybe some day, but I don't expect to see it!
 
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First of all, I feel for the families and communities affected by these incidents and understand how quickly a climate of fear can emerge, especially amongst sometimes isolated communities such as the second example posted by bb07.

The two examples differ greatly though, the first appearing to be a lumberjack or woodsman who was attacked when he surprised a mother and cubs, the second, an elderly lady who had previously complained of bears frequenting the area of her home...

The two incidents also were from two different species. The lumberjack was attacked by a Grizzly while the woman was eaten by a Black Bear.
 
...I too have heard the anecdote that more people are killed in Britain by spooked cattle than are killed by bears in North America. Just how true that is, I'd be reluctant to comment...

That's interesting. Because I just did a quick search and found 8 seperate fatal bear attacks in North America in the last 12 months. Five are listed in Wikipedia (with details) and the three listed in this thread are more recent than Wikipedia's last update.

In view of that, it seems like there must be a good number of people getting trampled.
 
Not many people are killed by spooked cattle.

About 10 a day are killed by cars. I think we should round up all the cars in the vicinity of the fatalities and shoot them. Just to be sure.
 

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