Breitling Or Rolex
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Ok so I know it's not a sub or anything, but this is my old Rolex.
I don't know the model no etc, but if anyone does I'd be interested to find out more
That is a 9K gold manual wind dress watch with case made in England by Denison for Rolex. 10-1/2" Hunter 17 jewel superbalance movement circa 1957-ish.
Cheers for the info Jon, I love wearing this watch, it brings back many happy memories of the man who gave it to me - my Great Grandad:
During WW II Rolex sent out watches to Brit POWs to boost their spirits. They weren't billed but were asked to cover costs if they could when they got home. They didn't have to, but many did out of honour for the extraordinary and welcome gift they received whilst in their lowest spirits.
Are people that buy high end watches crass? Some of them maybe like to ponce around and point out that their watch is better than the Timex on the wrist of the other person, but they are not representitive of all high end watch buyers and they are wrong, it's not better, it's different. It is an insult for somebody to suggest that a rolex/ Brietling owner is crass when every one of us living a good life here in the UK has luxuries many in other countrys don't. What is wrong with appreciating a finely made technical piece of craftsmanship and striving to own one when they have saved up and achieved a landmark in their lives?
Every single one of us on here has an extravagance, be it art on the wall, designer sunglasses, clothes, dinner out or a big TV. To label someone who wants to spend money on a nice watch that lasts a lifetime as crass is awful and no better than those few people who actually do wear these watches and rub it in and mock lower end watches. Each end of the spectrum has it's place and we shouldn't belittle the people who buy either. And also why can we not discuss these items as outdoors watches, that's what some of them were made for, it's no different to discussing lower end brands as good outdoors watches. Famous Explorers and outdoors experts have worn Timex and Rolex. Watches have been to the summits of Everest and the lowest depths of the seas. But when it is a tool that people are staking their lives upon, like astronauts, pioneer climbers and adventurers, divers and deep sea exploration etc. They always rely on the best made and tested brands, and they are mostly Omega, Brietling and Rolex.
So lets leave the insults and sly snipes out and at least except that people that do want to buy those watches on this forum, are doing so because they are proven and tested in the outdoors and have a great record of being on our heroes and pioneers wrists throughout history. Not all of us sit in offices but are out there using them in the rough. And even if people only wear them in the office or on special occasions, respect that, there is nothing wrong in it. Don't confuse all buyers as the very rich people who buy them like we do peanuts. Most people who buy Rolex have worked hard and saved for something a little special and are on low incomes. The very rich buy the gold diamond covered jobbies as they like to put their money on their wrists and show it off. That is a very different buyer and certainly could be labelled as crass, but don't tar us all with the same brush.
Are people that buy high end watches crass? Some of them maybe like to ponce around and point out that their watch is better than the Timex on the wrist of the other person, but they are not representitive of all high end watch buyers and they are wrong, it's not better, it's different. It is an insult for somebody to suggest that a rolex/ Brietling owner is crass when every one of us living a good life here in the UK has luxuries many in other countrys don't. What is wrong with appreciating a finely made technical piece of craftsmanship and striving to own one when they have saved up and achieved a landmark in their lives?
Every single one of us on here has an extravagance, be it art on the wall, designer sunglasses, clothes, dinner out or a big TV. To label someone who wants to spend money on a nice watch that lasts a lifetime as crass is awful and no better than those few people who actually do wear these watches and rub it in and mock lower end watches. Each end of the spectrum has it's place and we shouldn't belittle the people who buy either. And also why can we not discuss these items as outdoors watches, that's what some of them were made for, it's no different to discussing lower end brands as good outdoors watches. Famous Explorers and outdoors experts have worn Timex and Rolex. Watches have been to the summits of Everest and the lowest depths of the seas. But when it is a tool that people are staking their lives upon, like astronauts, pioneer climbers and adventurers, divers and deep sea exploration etc. They always rely on the best made and tested brands, and they are mostly Omega, Brietling and Rolex.
So lets leave the insults and sly snipes out and at least except that people that do want to buy those watches on this forum, are doing so because they are proven and tested in the outdoors and have a great record of being on our heroes and pioneers wrists throughout history. Not all of us sit in offices but are out there using them in the rough. And even if people only wear them in the office or on special occasions, respect that, there is nothing wrong in it. Don't confuse all buyers as the very rich people who buy them like we do peanuts. Most people who buy Rolex have worked hard and saved for something a little special and are on low incomes. The very rich buy the gold diamond covered jobbies as they like to put their money on their wrists and show it off. That is a very different buyer and certainly could be labelled as crass, but don't tar us all with the same brush.
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eloquently put, however, this isnt a forum that discusses high altitude mountaineering, deep sea diving, polar exploration or indeed any activity where our lives actually depend on our kit.
"Bushcrafting" is far from an extreme activity, if anything, the complete opposite, having little leather bags to keep our sugar in and handcrafted spoon carving knives could be considered by the masses to be quite twee, but certainly not high risk or kit dependant (agree winter camping is somewhat different, but then, i have spent a week at subzero temps in a bivibag and natural shelter and my timex still told me the time)
i dont think i have inferred those that own expensive things are crass, but rather the concept of spending £4 grand plus on a watch to be so, the same as spending £15 grand on a motorbike that doesnt go well, stop well or handle well but is bought for status and bling. i would say the same about £100k porsches or in fact £million houses
i cannot help being somewhat of a socialist at heart (hence a lifetime of public service at a wage at least 33% lower than my skill set would command in the private sector) but then, i also think the rich are undertaxed, the health service is underfunded, and everyone that has had a bankers bonus in the last 10 years should be paying 90% tax and have their passports removed to prevent the "brain drain"
so i stand by what i said, the thought of spending £4000 plus on something that offers no more than telling you the time (in our usage) when there are people living on less than that a year in this country, is offensive to me. I accept that everyone is entitled to spend their money on what they so wish, but i fail to see the relevance to this forum, the need for such within the context of what we do, how it is "not showing off"(unless a high altitude mountaineer/pro-diver or member of the SAS) or the objection to my opinion.
hold me in what regard you like, i have no more to say on the subject and have now learnt to not read threads that are essientially "willy waving"
"Bushcrafting" is far from an extreme activity, if anything, the complete opposite, having little leather bags to keep our sugar in and handcrafted spoon carving knives could be considered by the masses to be quite twee, but certainly not high risk or kit dependant (agree winter camping is somewhat different, but then, i have spent a week at subzero temps in a bivibag and natural shelter and my timex still told me the time)
i dont think i have inferred those that own expensive things are crass, but rather the concept of spending £4 grand plus on a watch to be so, the same as spending £15 grand on a motorbike that doesnt go well, stop well or handle well but is bought for status and bling. i would say the same about £100k porsches or in fact £million houses
i cannot help being somewhat of a socialist at heart (hence a lifetime of public service at a wage at least 33% lower than my skill set would command in the private sector) but then, i also think the rich are undertaxed, the health service is underfunded, and everyone that has had a bankers bonus in the last 10 years should be paying 90% tax and have their passports removed to prevent the "brain drain"
so i stand by what i said, the thought of spending £4000 plus on something that offers no more than telling you the time (in our usage) when there are people living on less than that a year in this country, is offensive to me. I accept that everyone is entitled to spend their money on what they so wish, but i fail to see the relevance to this forum, the need for such within the context of what we do, how it is "not showing off"(unless a high altitude mountaineer/pro-diver or member of the SAS) or the objection to my opinion.
hold me in what regard you like, i have no more to say on the subject and have now learnt to not read threads that are essientially "willy waving"
Yes it is. That is exactly what this forum discusses. It's not just about British woodlands and primitive skills.
Rumour has it, I can't take part in willy waving.uppy_dog
You can, just on a smaller scale
I have noticed there hasn't been this kind of discussion on the "what have you bought today" thread?
lets all have a willy waving photo thread ! hahahahahaha !
Not sure Southey would appreciate that. Pretty sure Emma would.
Amazing that eh? Inverse snobbery can be far worse than the regular kind sometimes. A person must be the devout monk without any possessions to criticise another mans purchase history. I severly doubt that anyone has attained those heights here.
Methinks that Edmund wore the Smiths and the sherpa sported the roly. (Wilsdorf turning in his grave as I type) Quick swap before the summit and bobs your uncle for the photo call. A bit like a 1953 version of the Robbie Williams Nikon facade. If W and D, Rolco, Unicorn or whatever floats your boat then you really dont have to justify it with claims of daring do. I appreciate the engineering R and D skills but Im looking for savvy and value for money at the price point. Hence I vote to spend my money with Zenith.( I do have a Superocean but no Rolies) I am not interested in the best investment after 5 years, I just want to appreciate the watch for what it is not what others perceive it to be. (Average man on the street would not bat an eyelid at a Zenith EP and thats the way I like it).
There again I live in a terraced house, drive a 8 year old car and feel I should have worked harder at school so please dont trust my judgement as I spent all my money on watches.
There again I live in a terraced house, drive a 8 year old car and feel I should have worked harder at school so please dont trust my judgement as I spent all my money on watches.
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How about the Apollo 13 Rolex GMT and Omega Speedmaster debate? Hot topics and while common sense says Omega, photographic evidence sees the GMT. It is great stuff. But Connerys Bond did have a sub. Can't argue with that
The Superocean and Sub non date were value for money ten years ago. Today, not a chance. Great watches both. I'd struggle to find an iconic and great watch with a decent price. Surprisingly for most who have viewed this thread, I'd go with CWC. I'd include an Omega Seamaster if only they hadn't changed that beautiful movement and upped the price loads too.
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How about the Apollo 13 Rolex GMT and Omega Speedmaster debate? Hot topics and while common sense says Omega, photographic evidence sees the GMT. It is great stuff. But Connerys Bond did have a sub. Can't argue with that
The Superocean and Sub non date were value for money ten years ago. Today, not a chance. Great watches both. I'd struggle to find an iconic and great watch with a decent price. Surprisingly for most who have viewed this thread, I'd go with CWC. I'd include an Omega Seamaster if only they hadn't changed that beautiful movement and upped the price loads too.
Is that the real Bond with the real Bond nato? It has to be 16mm on a sub ND or its not realistic. Although this is a fictional character from a book of er....fiction.
(Yes, I am laughing with you.)
EdS
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
well know I've past 40 and spent too many years drinking cider I want a watch that gives an indication of how late I am (again). And wont break my heart when I forget where I put it -I did consider pocket watch on a nipple ring as a solution but it would ruin the cut of my finest bargain t-shirt and I know for a fact anything attached to nipple rings doesn't half chaff when wearing a rucksack.
Hmmm, Coincidence there!!
It would have been nice to have cases for them as they both work (cases scrapped years ago by previous owners
)Just realised that the regulator has be somehow pushed right around to the longest stroke position so it will lose time a-plenty!!
John
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Interesting thread.
Just a few times in my life I've bought the 'best-you-can-get' item: an Alan Wood knife, an Elecraft K3 transceiver, a Feinwerkbau target pistol, a pair of Zeiss binoculars and a Gray telescope.
I have to say I have never regretted any of these purchases.
Just a few times in my life I've bought the 'best-you-can-get' item: an Alan Wood knife, an Elecraft K3 transceiver, a Feinwerkbau target pistol, a pair of Zeiss binoculars and a Gray telescope.
I have to say I have never regretted any of these purchases.
