Does my ideal petrol lighter exist

[ex-member BareThrills]

Right then folks i am after a petrol lighter

It needs to be waterproof and wind proof and have a good capacity. So basically it needs to be a cross between a peanut lighter (waterproof / Fuel doesnt evaporate) and a zippo (wind proof and good capacity). I have peanut lighters and I have Zippos. I am aware that you can whack a ranger band over a zippo to aid airtightness but im just wondering if some clever person has invented something better.

 

[EarthToSimon]

How about an IMCO?

You can get them for about a fiver usually, they have an adjustable wind barrier and you can remove the fuel chamber to use it like a candle.

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

Cheers but i have one of those too. Not waterproof and seal isnt good enough to preserve fuel for long periods

 

[demographic]

As much as I hate to admit it, the longer lasting lighters contain gas, not petrol.

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

As much as I hate to admit it, the longer lasting lighters contain gas, not petrol.

Well i suppose gas will last indefinitely but gas is not useful for the application i have in mind given its temperature limitations.

 

[dwardo]

Always wondered this my self. The zippos are great but shocking seals mean no life.
My little peanut lighter that you gave me bud is ace. Never leaks fuel but want something bigger and easier to use.

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

Always wondered this my self. The zippos are great but shocking seals mean no life.
My little peanut lighter that you gave me bud is ace. Never leaks fuel but want something bigger and easier to use.

You're not wrong mate. The ideal for me is a large cylinder lighter with screw top, threaded lid and o-ring like the peanut but with the windshield feature of a zippo.

 

[Jared]

All can think of atm, is a metal or permanent match.

There's a few zippo branded ones, a zippo lighter sized one, and a cylinder version, but unclear whether they are actual genuine zippo products.


http://www.sharkdesigns.co.uk/bushcraft/Products Folder/fire/Lighters/metal_match_lighter.html


Basically wick soaked in petrol that has a scrapper embedded, so when used with a ferro rod, it burns.

 

[petrochemicals]

parraffin lighter, no evapouration, lots less voilatile, and less corossive.

Find your own link

 

[ozzy1977]

What about a zippo with a bit of bike inner tube around it?

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

I am aware that you can whack a ranger band over a zippo to aid airtightness but im just wondering if some clever person has invented something better.

What about a zippo with a bit of bike inner tube around it?

Already covered mate

 

[Teepee]

This kind of ww1 trench cartridge/permanent match/lipstick style comes closest I think. I have one similar but made from aluminium and with a bigger overlap where the lid fits over the body.


Here's a nice one; http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-BOWERS...032?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4611b77b40. No windshield but with that size of petrol soaked wadding, probably doesn't need it Looks thirsty too.

 

[Darwa]

Something like this or this perhaps?

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

Something like this or this perhaps?

The wenger is the closest yet mate but still lacks the seal at the top end. Good call though. Its got potential

 

[Darwa]

The wenger is the closest yet mate but still lacks the seal at the top end. Good call though. Its got potential

Aye. I'm tempted to pick one up myself. I like where it says "when the main compartment eventually evaporates or gets used up".

 

[tenderfoot]

zippo sell a spare fuel container that is a quite a bit bigger than a peanut lighter but increases amount of fuel carried and is sealed against evaporation .maybe one of those plus a peanut?. i havent tried but my peanut would probably only use half of whats in the zippo container so it would give you thrice the working time if you started with it and the peanut fully loaded.

 

[Greek1983]

My father had many years ago a Dunhill petrol lighter. It coped well on rain and harsh wind.

http://www.oggettivamentebello.it/en/prodotto.php?id=654

Du Pont also makes such lighters. Don't go after the (wery wery) expensive ones.

I on the other hand still prefer my Silva Helios storm lighter

 

[Ogri the trog]

It would appear that we're both on a similar quest.

I have been thinking that a petroleum based liquid fuel is the most versatile for long term emergency use, but the means to actually present it in a bushcraft/long term outdoor package is somewhat limited.

A Zippo (even with a tight fitting ranger band) looses fuel over a period of a few weeks and a peanut suffers terribly in any breeze. I do intend to get a screw capped fuel reservoir for my combination to see if that improves the overall situation.

The only advice I can offer is to never carry your Zippo in your pocket! Seems counter-intuitive, but the slightest exposure to your body heat will speed up the evaporative process of fuel loss even when covered in a piece of inner tube as mentioned above.

ATB

Ogri the trog

 

[petrochemicals]

just a few points, how would you make a sealed petrol lighter as its a liquid ? Supposedly with pressure, I would look for something large like a mini blowtorch, so try a different product. Another thing is its probably not legal to have a pressurised petrol lighter in your hand, and as for unleaded, I'm supprised coleman can legally sell a stove that opts for unleaded petrol. unleaded petrol has 15% (gas oil ene )dissolved butane in it hence the unsafe storage, considering they reccommend lighting a fire over it, Bunnsfield oil refinery in minature .

To stop the evapouration an idea would be a sealable wick, with a screw top.

 

[Ogri the trog]

I think that's what we're after....

A zippo style lighter with all its reliability and wind-proof-ness, but with the addition of a screw thread and "O"-ring seal - a peanut lighter on steroids if you like.

ATB

Ogri the trog