Bad, good and better!

[Corso]

did i mention transfusion? ok for clarity and for the benefit of accuracy, they took what seemed like 2 gallons for numerous tests they were going to perform... sometimes you have to go with the flow and feel of the tale. nothing worse than having to explain a joke, Corso, dont even think of starting to pick all this apart its just a nice story. <<< smiley

my mistake.

I have read such results with dementia patients have been seen when pets are brought into thier environment. SOmething to do with the calming effect of contact.

 

[woodspirits]

my mistake.

I have read such results with dementia patients have been seen when pets are brought into thier environment. SOmething to do with the calming effect of contact.

yes i can see how that would work, the comfort value of touch would be immense, i would think all of us have felt the benefit of a caring hand. however on this occasion i didnt touch but hovered my hands about 6/8" away, his wifes testimony was all the 'proof' i needed. glad you didnt come screaming back at me on this all spitting and snarling,! save your good energy.

 

[John Fenna]

Yup - he only just came off my "ignore list - now he is back on it... sigh....

 

[Corso]

Sorry John are you refering to me?

 

[Wayland]

More likely to be Boatman mate.

 

[TurboGirl]

yes i can see how that would work, the comfort value of touch would be immense, i would think all of us have felt the benefit of a caring hand. however on this occasion i didnt touch but hovered my hands about 6/8" away....

I was pretty much open minded, with slightly agnostic overtones when I first encountered your reiki... I still don't know if I have more of a belief in your abilities and the near-on magikal qualities of North Wood than I do in 'Reiki' per se. When you research it as a word, there's so much badly written stuff that seems to overcomplicate and analyse something that hasn't been filtered through a scientific QED machine, it's extremely easy to discount it but.... it doesn't stop it being there!

Does it not work with actual physical contact? Like a short circuit or earth on an electrical circuit?

 

[Biker]

Good to read a happy ending to this story Steve, you had me worried! Take it easy bro'.

Aaron

 

[woodspirits]

interesting juxtaposition, exactly which side of the fence are you boatman? or are you being selective about your 'unproven' fairy tales? guess youve just shot yourself in the foot mate. despite your antagonistic nature, i wish you well and have as good a life as you can.

I remember that unproven is unproven which applies to Reiki and any other similar "treatment" especially those that rely on the abilities of a self-appointed natural healer or whatever term is appropriate. If it is legitimate to make such claims then it is legitimate to challenge them or should we be silent in admiration?

boatman Settler
Join Date Feb 2007Location CornwallPosts 871

I hope they are greeted by "Good day Captain or Mr Magpie" or whatever is your custom locally. They can foretell the future,
1 for sorrow
2 for joy
3 for a girl
4 for a boy
5 for silver
6 for gold
7 for a secret never to be told
8 for Heaven
9 for hell
10 for the heart you know so well.

 

[woodspirits]

Does it not work with actual physical contact? Like a short circuit or earth on an electrical circuit?

either way Sal'

Good to read a happy ending to this story Steve, you had me worried! Take it easy bro'.

Aaron

will do mate cheers.

 

[boatman]

interesting juxtaposition, exactly which side of the fence are you boatman? or are you being selective about your 'unproven' fairy tales? guess youve just shot yourself in the foot mate.




boatman Settler
Join Date Feb 2007Location CornwallPosts 871

I hope they are greeted by "Good day Captain or Mr Magpie" or whatever is your custom locally. They can foretell the future,
1 for sorrow etc.
.

Should have been all long-winded I suppose and added that it was supposed by some that they could foretell the future. Just assumed that my remark before to the effect that I liked these sayings for their historical value would show my disbelief. I still throw a bit of spilled salt over my shoulder but don't believe for one moment that it will avert bad luck just a habit and a remembrance of a Grandparent. Certainly you won't find me avoiding a solitary magpie but it amuses me, when I remember, to greet it.

 

[woodspirits]

now that reply has a whole new feel to it, maybe your not so bad!

 

[TurboGirl]

... i wish you well and have as good a life as you can. .

I think the worst 'bad' part of your thread is that the haters will never have or have had that kind of life. Spread bad vibes and you'll never understand the joy of bringing positivity to folk about you, its a self fulfilling prohecy which just breeds bitterness and discontent about till you finish up unable to get a touch of human sustainance from anything but other peoples dislike.

Its as rare to find a truly good person as it is to find a dyed in the wool bad one, but this forum seems to get them both

 

[John Fenna]

Sorry John are you refering to me?

Nope not you

 

[Gray]

Bloody hell Steve, glad your on the mend. Look after yourself buddy

 

[Corso]

cool

I'm not knowlegable enough to realy have an opinion re reki - never seen of felt it in action

I've seen/felt a bit of energy transfer in martial arts and realy couldn't explain it.

 

[woodspirits]

i understand what your saying Sal'

but thats just human nature. to question is to learn and move forward. its just that some need factual, scientific, infallible proof. while others are happy to offer credit to intuition, what they see, hear feel and have made a rational choice untill proven wrong. is that really so hard for some to understand? what sometimes annoys me is the need for the 'scientific crowd' to browbeat and bully those that choose to think beyond the box.

 

[woodspirits]

Bloody hell Steve, glad your on the mend. Look after yourself buddy

yes all good mate, thanks.

 

[Wayland]

What the "Scientific Crowd" sometimes forgets is that they are only working with the "Latest theory".

I do tend to put my faith in science for the most part but I have seen some things that science does not have a solid theory for yet, so I choose to leave the door ajar just a little and allow myself to be open to things beyond those which can be easily explained.

 

[TurboGirl]

I've been fascinated with Tesla lately, the scientist who pioneered 3 phase electricity and had unique insights into spirituality which led, inevitably, to ostracisation in American scientific society. Wherever the veils between science and spirituality are thinnest, the pioneers are always the first targets.... we humans might be brilliant in many ways but we're really blooming daft in the way we run our societies!

ps if anyone has the 2001 autobiography of Tesla, I'd love a borrow of it

 

[treadlightly]

So of a sample of three practitioners of similar systems two have heart problems, physician healing thyself don't seem to apply then. Still, the good old NHS is there for when real medical help is needed.

To say something is worth doing because of the placebo effect is wrong if it is also promoted as medically effective. Thus massage can improve a cancer patient's well-being and the care expressed may have a placebo effect BUT the actual massage is in itself medically effective while Reiki et al are not.

A previously popular "treatment", Therapeutic Touch, was shown to be nonsense by a 9 year-old girl.
A closed mind to people firing off cannons to end a cholera epidemic as in 19th century New Orleans, for example, would seem reasonable but back then it was considered essential.

I thought you said you weren't going to post on this thead anymore?

Good luck with your recovery Woodspirits.