Unsuccessful search for lightweight simple high leather boots, close to trail shoes flexibility

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Dogoak

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Jan 24, 2009
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Meindl Pioner's?

Pretty basic with no lining, maybe out of your £ range?

The trouble I've always found is that decent boots are pricey, luckily I have a bit of patience and that combined with eBay searches and boot sales means I never pay retail prices, (I can't afford to), scored a brand new pair of Desert Foxes for a tenner last year :)
 
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Namar

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Jun 21, 2016
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If the Lundhags aren't as heavy as stated on their website I'll clearly have a close look at that option, especially as I saw some second hand opportunities which would make them much more affordable.

Brasher boots look just like regular hiking boots to me, but thanks for suggesting.

Didn't know about the meindl pionneer, they do look almost exactly like what I'm searching for (except the heels, but I'll probably have to make some compromise anyway) and they are apparently rather lightweight too.
I'll try to find more about them, could be an interesting option as well

Thanks everyone for your answers !
 

quietone

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May 29, 2011
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Hey. Sorry for the late reply.. been dodging a certain type of human last few days :)
Weighed the parks and they are 950g with the standard wool felt insoles.
 

Namar

Tenderfoot
Jun 21, 2016
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Hi, no problem at all, I understand that.
So this is for a single shoe right ? Still rather heavy but yetbetter than what's listed on their website.
Thanks for taking the time to do so !
 

Mowmow

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Jul 6, 2016
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Ever thought of making yourself some turnshoes?

Seems pretty straightforwards and doesn't really require any specialist tools.
Tempted to make some my self to be fair.

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Namar

Tenderfoot
Jun 21, 2016
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Thanks for the idea but if i make something myself it’ll not be turnshoes, i really need a threaded sole.
smooth leather is damn slippery, and my playgrounds are full of hills and mountains.
 

spandit

Bushcrafter through and through
Jul 6, 2011
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So I'm looking for what would be (to me) the ideal outdoor shoes : a lightweight pair of leather boots, high shaft (between 15 and 18cm), sewn tong, flat and flexible soles, laces, no padding, no waterproof membrane, no fancy stuff, no awfully expensive price.

Not laughing about the wrestling boots, I already considered it, but the ones I found where not leather, too low and all had flat soles, which is a real danger on mud and grass

So you want cheap boots with flat soles that don't have flat soles. As Robbi said, unhelpable.
 
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Erbswurst

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The mentioned French army boots you can get here:

The old natural brown desert model of the légion étrangère I have only seen in very bad conditions in several French surplus shops since a couple of years.

Attention every body!
The Austrian Army issues since round about one year a new model of the light boots which are wrong constructed! They fall in pieces after a couple of DAYS!!!

The old model you can get for example here:

Steinkogler produces them as well and there you can get them in your INDIVIDUAL MEASURES too!
But for that special service you have to go there of course after making an appointment with the chief. (Why not going for holydays to Austria???)

You can download the models by klicking on: "Klicken Sie hier um den Katalog zu öffnen"

Steinkogler boots are high quality boots, not cheap but very long lasting.
 

Namar

Tenderfoot
Jun 21, 2016
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Spandit, in the second message i meant "non treaded", or "smooth", obviously.
Flat soles ( in the meaning "leveled") logically have better grip than shoes with heels due to the bigger contact surface (consideration made appart from the material or thread pattern).

For the moment the quest is over for me.
I luckily stumbled upon someone who was selling his brand new byteks cobra boots.
Quality leather and construction, grippy and flexible, waterproof in the streams for now, even without wax, and lightweight at a bit less than 600gr per shoe, i’m happy with them.
And finally I'll have some time to make my own moccassins to which I'll add treaded soles, which should be nice too.

Thanks everyone for your proposals

Edit : spelling
 
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spandit

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Spandit, in the second message i meant "non threaded", or "smooth", obviously.
Flat soles ( in the meaning "leveled") logically have better grip than shoes with heels due to the bigger contact surface (consideration made appart from the material or thread pattern).

Ah, you mean "treaded" - thought you were talking about stitched on soles as supposed to bonded. Flat soles may have more grip on an uphill gradient but downhill having a heel would probably give an advantage.
 

Namar

Tenderfoot
Jun 21, 2016
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Sorry it’s treading indeed, english isn’t my mother tongue, i’ll fix that.

I found heels uncomfortable on flat ground and in steep mountains (downs and ups) for plenty of reasons, especially on rocky terrains, but it’s very personal i guess and a question of habit also.
 

Namar

Tenderfoot
Jun 21, 2016
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Much more flexible and lighter than the usual combat boots I have seen previously though, and no heels, so a little bit different still.
 

Erbswurst

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English sounds nearly as bad as German, Finnish and Russian, but it is relatively easy to learn.
If you surch for a nice language, think about French or Italian!

:cool:
 

Dingo greens

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What about Waldviertler boots?
I have the jaga flex ankle boots, I think they could be all what you want.
Flat sole, soft leather, mimics walking bare foot.
They are 197 Euro with shipping. Don't know if they meet your budget, but I am very happy to walk in my jaga.
Address is:
gea-waldviertler.at
 
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