The Purpose of Humans?

[Libby]

Saying cows lie down before it rains, without qualifying a time scale for the rain to happen within, is just saying cows sometimes lie down and that sometimes it rains.

As for a purpose? I don't think there is one for humanity, though that doesn't exclude humans from making ones for themselves.

Or maybe it rains *because* cows lie down ;p

 

[HillBill]

I disagree The motivation behind saying that was not "We can do whatever we want 'cause we're the awesomest bipeds on the whole planet!" but rather, we have to choose our purpose because if we don't, we won't have one. We have removed ourself so far from nature that the purpose that every other creature has simply doesn't apply to us any more; I certainly don't think that's a good thing, and definitely not a mark of superiority, more a rather saddening mark of how far we've gone down the wrong road.

Pete

I agree about us being on the wrong path. The only path we should choose imo is the one we have left, but we first need to find out what it was

 

[Tadpole]

I agree about us being on the wrong path. The only path we should choose imo is the one we have left, but we first need to find out what it was

To say we are on the "wrong path" presupposes that there is a path we were "meant" to follow, which in turn supposes that we are being led somewhere, for there to be a correct path, there has to be/have been someone who had better judgement than us, and kindly worked out our best route. An assertion for which there is not a jot of evidence.
We may be going in the wrong direction but we have to make our own ways and paths.

 

[HillBill]

To say we are on the "wrong path" presupposes that there is a path we were "meant" to follow, which in turn supposes that we are being led somewhere, for there to be a correct path, there has to be/have been someone who had better judgement than us, and kindly worked out our best route. An assertion for which there is not a jot of evidence.
We may be going in the wrong direction but we have to make our own ways and paths.

This is all only opinions Tad, there is no right or wrong answer as none of it can be proved. Theres no evidence to suggest the opposite of what i speak either.

 

[Tadpole]

This is all only opinions Tad, there is no right or wrong answer as none of it can be proved. Theres no evidence to suggest the opposite of what i speak either.

I think you misunderstand the definition of ‘proof’, many many things can be proved, and in fact it is relatively easy to prove things. (We are not talking mathematical proof here)
What is hard much much harder is, disproving things for which there is no proof of their existence .
I can not provide evidence that disproves that claim that Russell’s Celestial Teapot orbits the sun between Mars and the earth. Nor can I disprove my e-friends pet dragon whom he claims keeps in his garage, (He tells me it’s both pink and invisible).

 

[Nagual]

I think you misunderstand the definition of ‘proof’, many many things can be proved, and in fact it is relatively easy to prove things. (We are not talking mathematical proof here)
What is hard much much harder is, disproving things for which there is no proof of their existence .
I can not provide evidence that disproves that claim that Russell’s Celestial Teapot orbits the sun between Mars and the earth. Nor can I disprove my e-friends pet dragon whom he claims keeps in his garage, (He tells me it’s both pink and invisible).

Quite obviously your friend is talking through a hole in his head. Anyone that knows anything about it, knows full well that pink and invisible dragons died out long ago, apparently the lid from a tea pot floating in outer space fell to earth and caused their extinction. Mauve and invisible are one of the few remaining.

 

[demographic]

Why the hell do I need a purpose?

 

[British Red]

<sigh>

Thought we'd got onto something more generally interesting than arguing the unprovable with the intransigent.

I was wrong

Seconds away.....round two!

Now Shroedingers cat...............

 

[Toddy]

.............

Seconds away.....round two!

Now Shroedingers cat...............

Is obviously thoroughly fizzing, spitting, hissing, mad, and woe betide any poor fool who opens the box unawares

cheers,
Toddy

 

[British Red]

I've always thought there should be a Shroedingers mouse as well

Along with the thought that Shroedingers cat proves one thing.

Scientists talk absolute c***

 

[HillBill]

Scientists talk absolute c***

thats done it

Here we go again.

 

[locum76]

Scientists talk absolute c***

must... avoid.... arguing.... with.... British Red.

 

[wildman695]

we are here to be screwed by the government.

 

[British Red]

must... avoid.... arguing.... with.... British Red.

Either scientists have papal infallibility or they talk c***. Nowhere did I say "always".

But all scientists talk c*** some of the time. Some scientists talk c*** all of the time.

By all means however get out the scientific bell book and candle and declare me apostate. I'm sure I will be excommunicated from science.

1010011010 is the number of the beast!

Red



Red

 

[malente]

this thread still open? :yikes:

 

[locum76]

Either scientists have papal infallibility or they talk c***. Nowhere did I say "always".

But all scientists talk c*** some of the time. Some scientists talk c*** all of the time.

By all means however get out the scientific bell book and candle and declare me apostate. I'm sure I will be excommunicated from science.

1010011010 is the number of the beast!

Red



Red

no, no, no. you misunderstand. I'm beginning to think that is the purpose of humans.

 

[Nagual]

<sigh>

Thought we'd got onto something more generally interesting than arguing the unprovable with the intransigent.

I was wrong

Seconds away.....round two!

Now Shroedingers cat...............

For a moment I read that as transuranic, but as we all know transuranic elements can't be used where there is life...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transuranium_element

 

[British Red]

I just re-read my original post.

Something occured to me.

If E-bay never make a mistake on the exchange of monies following a transaction......


Is that PayPal infallibility?

 

[Toddy]

M

 

[Toddy]

I've always thought there should be a Shroedingers mouse as well

Along with the thought that Shroedingers cat proves one thing.

Scientists talk absolute c***

No, No, Nooooo, that's what the cat leaves in the box
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theoretically
cheers,
M