The NURSE who took the 'duchess' prank call found dead.

[BOD]

The prank was silly and childish and a reflection on the sort of media audience who relish that sort of stuff but I cannot help feeling that something happened at the hospital.

The newspaper report speaks of a establishment that values the privacy of its VIP patients. I can imagine that some administrator may have spoken to her in a fulminating, if not outrightly threatening, manner because of the security breach. Such incidents are not uncommon when an institution or company places its reputation above peoples feelings.

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

The prank was silly and childish and a reflection on the sort of media audience who relish that sort of stuff but I cannot help feeling that something happened at the hospital.

The newspaper report speaks of a establishment that values the privacy of its VIP patients. I can imagine that some administrator may have spoken to her in a fulminating, if not outrightly threatening, manner because of the security breach. Such incidents are not uncommon when an institution or company places its reputation above peoples feelings.

I think you could be right there BOD. Although the hospital are saying they took no action and were supportive im sure there is probably a little more that is not being said. It will be interesting to see if anything else comes out. Im sure the gutter press will be snooping already

 

[abominable_scouse_monster]

I think you could be right there BOD. Although the hospital are saying they took no action and were supportive im sure there is probably a little more that is not being said. It will be interesting to see if anything else comes out. Im sure the gutter press will be snooping already

I am sure they didn't take action but she would have known the consensuses of breaking the laws, and I am also sure there is more about this nurse we don't know yet. As some one else said this might have been the final straw. But it's still very sad that some one has died over a a bad joke, performed in the worst possible taste.

 

[kiltedpict]

Sorry, but can someone clarify what she actually did wrong please?

 

[abominable_scouse_monster]

Sorry, but can someone clarify what she actually did wrong please?

See my post number 19.

 

[Toddy]

I think the only thing the nurse could have done any differently was to confirm with whoever passed the call through to her, or checked by some other security protocol, that she was actually speaking to the Queen. Probably just too flustered though.

The sort of information she appears to have given is well within that normally given to listed family members calling to enquire about a patient. I have two elderly relations who are in and out like yo-yos these days (the Uncle's in just now) and one of the family calls every morning to ask how he is and what's happening or needed.
The nursing staff seem to be fine with this and actually give out printed leaflets with the ward numbers, etc.,

M

 

[wingstoo]

The person who has killed herself isn't the ward nurse, it is the receptionist who passed the call to the ward.

Still very sad though.

 

[rik_uk3]

Technically, over the phone you give out zero patient information, nothing, perhaps "No change in his/her condition" at best. Some wards are fastidious in enforcing this, some nurses get sloppy or make mistakes as is human nature. Whatever the case, the death of this poor girl is heartbreaking and she's been in my prayers.

 

[kiltedpict]

As far as I understand it from the latest news feeds (and apologies if I have the wrong info), she merely answered the call and put it through to the nurse/midwife in the room with the Duchess, and did not herself give out any clinical information- I fail to see how the NMC would have any interest her actions. The nurse in the room who did give out the patients condition on the other hand, has breached the code of Professional Conduct, but noone seems bothered by that.

 

[kiltedpict]

The person who has killed herself isn't the ward nurse, it is the receptionist who passed the call to the ward.

Still very sad though.

Actually, she was a nurse who may or may not have been the senior nurse on shift (referred in the press as the Duty Nurse), who just happened to be passing the phone at the unmanned reception. It has been repeated again by the BBC that it is believed she DID NOT pass on any information, merely put the call through to the room- makes it even more tragic.

 

[santaman2000]

Technically, over the phone you give out zero patient information, nothing, perhaps "No change in his/her condition" at best. Some wards are fastidious in enforcing this, some nurses get sloppy or make mistakes as is human nature. Whatever the case, the death of this poor girl is heartbreaking and she's been in my prayers.

Over here they're not even allowed to confirm that a person is even IN said hospital except to IMMEDIATE family members without the consent of the patient (or guardian) Not over the phone or in person. As the grandmother, even the Queen wouldn't qualify.

That said, I don't know how a caller would be verified to be a legitamate immediate family member.

Unintended consequences of the privacy aspect of the law is that hospitals are abandonning wards an semi-private rooms in favor of totally private patiant rooms. No other setting allows the doctor to discuss condition and treatment with the patient and still afford the privacy required by law.

 

[John Fenna]

The absolute responsibility for this lies with the people who think that invading the privacy of a sick woman and trying to trap people into a humiliating set of circumstances is "funny". Petty, nasty and vindictive little people who try to abuse others to curry favour with the lowest form of life in the name of ratings.

I doubt they have a consicence or any form of morality - so I do hope the public opinion will be brought to bear on their muck raking employers - who have been in trouble with broadcast standards authorities before.

Even without this tragic outcome, the very best case was invasion of privacy of a new mother at risk of losing her baby and the public humiliation of under valued staff.

My comtempt for these wastes of skin knows no bounds.[/QUOTE
As so often before, I am right with you on this!
I hope there is a dose of "instant Karma" for the scum responsible.

 

[blacktimberwolf]

I suspect there were other circumstances in her life which were leading up to this tragic end & this incident pushed her over the edge.............

 

[realearner]

Is it the dj's and radio station or the fact that there are so many idiots that listen to their drivel or sad humour, thinking it's funny to make people look foolish for fun..
I hate that kind of humour and the people that consider it funny, it's the lowest form of humour playing to the lowest form of life.

So sorry for the young women who tragically died from these moronic idiots.
My thoughts are with her family.

 

[S.C.M.]

part or all of the prank was on the portuguese news the other day. I will admit to finding it funny, but not for the content. I found it funny because of the absurdity of the pranksters fake accent. Because I didn't hear most of the call, I have no idea of what actually went on in it...so I won't say anything about the prank. I was kind of hoping the nurse had seen through it straight away and was bullsh*ting for a laugh....that would have been really funny, as opposed to what seemingly happened

 

[jacko1066]

The absolute responsibility for this lies with the people who think that invading the privacy of a sick woman and trying to trap people into a humiliating set of circumstances is "funny". Petty, nasty and vindictive little people who try to abuse others to curry favour with the lowest form of life in the name of ratings.

I doubt they have a consicence or any form of morality - so I do hope the public opinion will be brought to bear on their muck raking employers - who have been in trouble with broadcast standards authorities before.

Even without this tragic outcome, the very best case was invasion of privacy of a new mother at risk of losing her baby and the public humiliation of under valued staff.

My comtempt for these wastes of skin knows no bounds.[/QUOTE
As so often before, I am right with you on this!
I hope there is a dose of "instant Karma" for the scum responsible.

Bloody well said John!!!!
And you said it fAr more Elequentley than I was able to!!
Totally agree!!


Leave only footprints take only memories

 

[kennyboy]

Does anyone remember Johnathon Woss/Russel brand humiliating a pensioner(Andrew Sachs) for the sake of lols?
Feedback was bad, Publicity was astronomical. They got slapped on the wrist then continued with their multi-million pound contracts. That was a shame. THEY (Woss/Brand) should be yesterdays news. The moron Woss can't even pronounce HIS OWN NAME!

Meanwhile some Aussie jocks thinks it will be a laugh to abuse nursing staff for the lols. Nursing is a high stress occupation. Who knows what was going round this poor womans mind before these morons called. Hope they can live with the outcome of their jape. But I guess they will carry on regardless as nobody is responsibal for their actions. Feedback is bad, publicity is astronomical. They will be back!

 

[BOD]

Now this is really annoying me. Seems there are fears for the mental state of one of the radio DJs

"Ms Greig and Mr Christian have so far remained tight-lipped after the incident, and are receiving "intensive psychological counselling" to deal with the tragedy, the Australian said...A spokeswoman for Austereo told the Australian the pair would be speaking with the media, but when would depend on their state of mind, which was described as "fragile"...

Rhys Holleran, chief executive of Austereo, said there were real fears for the pair following the tragedy and ensuing backlash.
"Everyone who knows Mel fears for her mental state," the Sunday Times reported him saying. "There are very real fears she could self-harm, and nobody wants that."

Frankly who cares. Looks like karma is in action.

 

[xylaria]

This radio station has previous for abusing on a 14 year rape victim.
http://www.channel4.com/news/kate-radio-prank-radio-disciplined-over-rape-show

The woss/brand abusive call to andrew sacks was appalling, and is constant reminder of the lack of moral compass of TV directors that either of them still have a job. Brand gives me the creeps, there is something really quite sleezy about him. I stopped watching TV years ago, I am piccy about what radio I listen to. However the days when a parent leave could a child in front of newsround and know they wouldn't get morally corrupted has now gone. Newsbeat has articals on porn, on how making porn is a career choice, these have apperred after the saville stoory broke about the BBC being complicit/colluding with paedophiles. Dick and dom regularly humilate children for enterainment, now eventually they been pulled up because a child was made phisically sick. It has only took 10 years.

I think I am a liberal thinking adult, but I have had enough the routine humilation of people through the media and the moral corruption of children, into thinking bullying is funny.

 

[robin wood]

It seems we are all agreed on this?

Petty, nasty and vindictive little people who try to abuse others to curry favour with the lowest form of life in the name of ratings. My comtempt for these wastes of skin knows no bounds.

the behaviour of those "pranksters" is beneath contempt!

it is these type of people and there total disregard for other peoples feelings that make me think that i have very little faith in the human race and its future

I hope there is a dose of "instant Karma" for the scum responsible.

I hate that kind of humour and the people that consider it funny, it's the lowest form of humour playing to the lowest form of life. So sorry for the young women who tragically died from these moronic idiots.

Now this is really annoying me. Seems there are fears for the mental state of one of the radio DJs Frankly who cares. Looks like karma is in action.

Frankly I care and from your sig line "An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind" M. K. Gandhi I would have expected you to care too.

I wonder how many folk heard the call? I agree wasting hospital time was in very bad taste but the Australian man doing the Queen and woman doing Price Charles incredibly badly being put through simply beggared belief. Despite it being all over the news I saw no one single comment here or anywhere in the intervening few days of anyone who was so deeply offended until the sad outcome. Are you judging the original actions fairly? or has the extremely unfortunate outcome changed all your opinions? My thoughts are with the nurse and her family but also with the DJs and their family and friends. I do believe they are real people with feelings and I have no doubt they feel far worse than most of us do about the tragic outcome of their actions. Have none of us ever made a mistake that has had disproportionatley bad outcomes?

I am with boatman

The fact that a similar joke call had a tragic outcome does not make the perpetrators culpable.