Tactical bushcraft...What does that mean
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Tactical Knife -- a knife not designed for fighting but has certain features that allow it, if needed to be pressed into service as a fighter.
Tactical Bushcrafter -- Someone who isnt a bushcrafter but has certain knowledge that if the situation needs it the person can do a bit of shrafting.
When something is described as tactical it just means multi use to some extent, and if it isnt a multi use item then it aint tactical
Tactical Bushcrafter -- Someone who isnt a bushcrafter but has certain knowledge that if the situation needs it the person can do a bit of shrafting.
When something is described as tactical it just means multi use to some extent, and if it isnt a multi use item then it aint tactical
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I think that's a rather cruel definition if it is said of Chris.
He is honestly one of the most capable, and knowledgable, people I know.
I'm sure that Spyderco did not realise just what an issue this phrase would be in the UK, especially when attached to one of the most painstaking knifemakers involved in bushcraft.
cheers,
M
He is honestly one of the most capable, and knowledgable, people I know.
I'm sure that Spyderco did not realise just what an issue this phrase would be in the UK, especially when attached to one of the most painstaking knifemakers involved in bushcraft.
cheers,
M
Hmmmm..... Spyderco go up in my estimation for getting on with the design made up by Chris - and way down for employing a copywriter who thinks that the word "Tactical" enhances the word "Bushcraft".....
Not said of anyone in particular Mary, just a definition of the phrase. As that is what tactical actually means. Basically its just multi purpose, jack of all trades, master of none. In all fairness you cant even use it in the sense that spyderco did. It may sound good but means nothing. The term can be used to describe items but not people or activites.
No offence intended to Chris. I just put it into perspective. If it seems to be a little insulting then maybe spyderco should withdraw the comment as that is really what they are saying, probably without realising it. Most dont really know what tactical means in its true sense when used to describe something, and lots of companys use it as marketing for a product. Fair enough, though to use it to describe a person shows serious lack of understanding of what it actually means. I never coined the term, i just explained it and answered the question in the thread title
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Ahhh, Mary it's not aimed at anyone. I think we all feel for Chris, he didnt ask to get tagged with that phrase and while Spyderco make superb knives, they dropped the baby with their marketing blurb. It's just the result of cross-culture marketing.
A little bit of trivia. Spyderco made a knife called the pride. They stuck a US flag on it and it sold by the bucketful. They made a UK version with a Union falg on it and it was a massive flop. Sal didn't get why. He asked on BritishBlades and the message he got was that while we are every bit as patriotic as any other country, we dont go in for the same kind of flag waving. Sal asked what would work in the UK and the UKPK was born.
Different countries, different cultures. What works in one doesnt necessarily work in the other.
Hummmmm, Tactical Bacon, --- must come from a Tactical Hog. Guess the tactics that poor mr. Hog used were not very good or he would be alive and the man at the slaughter house would be dead.
Tactical Toothpaste --- very difficult to find in stores. I guess the camo packaging was a big mistake.
The American newsman/writer H.L Mencken once observed that "no one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." I think that is a pithy comment regarding all of this "tactical" crap.
Tactical Toothpaste --- very difficult to find in stores. I guess the camo packaging was a big mistake.
The American newsman/writer H.L Mencken once observed that "no one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." I think that is a pithy comment regarding all of this "tactical" crap.
...subjectively.I never coined the term, i just explained it and answered the question in the thread title
Another definition would be....
tactical:
of, or relating to tactics; of, or relating to military operations that are smaller or more local than strategic ones; adroit, skilful or ingenious
I would suggest that this is the meaning behind the phrase as it's used in this context. In fact in most contexts.
When the SAS do a tactical building entry, Is it on the basis that they arent really specialists, but if the situation needs it they can do a bit?
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When the SAS do a tactical building entry, Is it on the basis that they arent really specialists, but if the situation needs it they can do a bit?
I sense a little bit of national SAS pride oozing out there....
Tom
...subjectively.
Another definition would be....
tactical:
of, or relating to tactics; of, or relating to military operations that are smaller or more local than strategic ones; adroit, skilful or ingenious
I would suggest that this is the meaning behind the phrase as it's used in this context. In fact in most contexts.
When the SAS do a tactical building entry, Is it on the basis that they arent really specialists, but if the situation needs it they can do a bit?
Like i said, Tactical when used to desribe an item means Multi use, jack of all trades master of none. The SAS are not an item and a tactical unit is a unit that can perform all functions and does not specialise in one, same thing. My unit in the legion was a Tactical unit. We had extensions that were more specialised like DINOPS for example. The SAS is divided into 4 groups ( air, boat, mountain, and ground) so each group is tactical yet the overall is specialised to those four groups.
Hmmmm, been looking at some online definitions Bill and I cant find any that say multi-use, or jack of all trades. In fact all the definitions I am reading say the opposite.
Here's some...
I'm not trying to pick a fight Bill, but you said that most dont really know what tactical means in its true sense and I'm just trying to find where that comes from?
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You are quoting on Tactics Martyn which isn't the same as tactical. Tactics are manouvers or strategies you employ the 2 words can be used interchangebly. This is the english language remember we have the same words that mean different things for example
When planning tactics you know the objective and are planning on how to accomplish it.
When planning tactically then you are planning a tactic to cover all eventualities as you dont know exactly what your going to be doing.
Then theres tactical kit which is planned to be used for more than one purpose and reduces the need for specialist kit.
Do you follow?
When planning tactics you know the objective and are planning on how to accomplish it.
When planning tactically then you are planning a tactic to cover all eventualities as you dont know exactly what your going to be doing.
Then theres tactical kit which is planned to be used for more than one purpose and reduces the need for specialist kit.
Do you follow?
Stratagy = big picture
Tactics = small picture
Tactical = as used in smaller picture
Tactical equipment = (1) items used in the smaller picture (ie the sharp end where orange meets blue)
(2) black ugly bits of kit that need a tag-line to sell them to the gullable public.....
As I understand it anyway!
Tactics = small picture
Tactical = as used in smaller picture
Tactical equipment = (1) items used in the smaller picture (ie the sharp end where orange meets blue)
(2) black ugly bits of kit that need a tag-line to sell them to the gullable public.....
As I understand it anyway!
It's a derivative of the same word Bill, tactics is the noun, tactical is the adjective and tactically is the adverb. But that is irrelevant, I just wanted to know where you got your definition from (of either the noun, adjective or adverb), because I cant find anything that is even remotely close.
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Stratagy = big picture
Tactics = small picture
Tactical = as used in smaller picture
Tactical equipment = (1) items used in the smaller picture (ie the sharp end where orange meets blue)
(2) black ugly bits of kit that need a tag-line to sell them to the gullable public.....
As I understand it anyway!
It has a lot of grey areas. For example when the tactics are defined and you know exactly what you are doing then you will use specialised kit as opposed to tactical kit, which you use when you dont know what your doing.
From 8 years in the military in a tactical unit mate.
Which may sound good but basically means we can do anything they require from us.
John, Does that mean you can market "tactical" Dragon's Breath Kits in Black Leather at a premium?:You_Rock_
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From 8 years in the military in a tactical unit mate.
Fair enough.
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