Survival Tins - Updates

[neoaliphant]

My emergency gear out here is still split into: a) carried on person (EDC-plus), b) belt-kit (with survival equipment, signalling items, emergency rations and first aid kit, plus my parang carried on a separate strap - none of this will fit into a tobacco tin!) and, if required, c) rucksack with the main sustainment gear.

Ive changed to the same technique last year
edc pocket stuff
belt kit which is a series of small molle pouches from ali express, each one has a category of stuff in it.
these can be worn on belt, or inside a viper tacpac for quick pick up and go, or in front pouch of a 40L molle daypack.
most of the daypack is empty, and just food water and messkit stuff and a fleece. and tech stuff.

 

[neoaliphant]

Do people pre vaseline their cotton wool, i tend to put cotton wool/tampons in a tube with matches and keep vaseline ina seperate screwpot.

 

[Jared]

Following on from @neoaliphant question...

Does any use a chapstick with a high petrolatum content instead of vaseline?

 

[neoaliphant]

Following on from @neoaliphant question...

Does any use a chapstick with a high petrolatum content instead of vaseline?

ACtually what i use in one is a tin of vaseline, and my smaller fire kit is petroleum based lip balm
apparently the tube of burts bees is meant to be good, cheapest from Home Bargains

 

[Jared]

Been trying to find Burt Bees in the local Tescos, but suspect its in the fenced off Holland and Barrett section.

 

[Erbswurst]

Petroleum based lip balm?
I don't use it, and so I have no idea about it.
Who are the makers you recommend as fire starters?

 

[neoaliphant]

I would just like to take this moment to blame TeeDee for the amount of hours this year ive had to spend reoptimising reallocating and generally have a good sort out of my pouches and kits, spread out over half my living room floor at the moment. Im reckoning about 20 hours so far this year on "pouch fiddle" as we call it at home, i know most is my adhd, but I strongly suspect there other people who have been posting on this thread as ocd/adhd or similar when it comes to kits.....

 

[Jared]

White petrolatum, petroleum jelly and Vaseline are effectively the same thing.
The original Chapstick's active ingredient is white petrolatum (45%), in a convenient small package for both skin protection and fire accelerant.

 

[neoaliphant]

Anyleatherman users here, was wondering about upgrading from a micro leatherman clone to something beefier, was wondering the surge as I like the idea of replaceable saw blades, some people say too ehavy and wave is better

Leathermans i think are still part of the original topic as they are definaiteluy something which has got better over the years, and the micro one is definitely tin packable

 

[TeeDee]

I would just like to take this moment to blame TeeDee for the amount of hours this year ive had to spend reoptimising reallocating and generally have a good sort out of my pouches and kits, spread out over half my living room floor at the moment. Im reckoning about 20 hours so far this year on "pouch fiddle" as we call it at home, i know most is my adhd, but I strongly suspect there other people who have been posting on this thread as ocd/adhd or similar when it comes to kits.....

Requires photos and obviously the final selection. Thank You!!

 

[moocher]

Anyleatherman users here, was wondering about upgrading from a micro leatherman clone to something beefier, was wondering the surge as I like the idea of replaceable saw blades, some people say too ehavy and

Leathermans i think are still part of the original topic as they are definaiteluy something which has got better over the years, and the micro one is definitely tin packable

I hankered after a leatherman multi tool for years bought a wave last summer out of a surplus shop and tbh I haven’t really used it and one thing I don’t like about it is the weight it seems very heavy to carry ? Unless I’m getting weak in my old age lol

 

[moocher]

I would just like to take this moment to blame TeeDee for the amount of hours this year ive had to spend reoptimising reallocating and generally have a good sort out of my pouches and kits, spread out over half my living room floor at the moment. Im reckoning about 20 hours so far this year on "pouch fiddle" as we call it at home, i know most is my adhd, but I strongly suspect there other people who have been posting on this thread as ocd/adhd or similar when it comes to kits.....

Tweaked mine removed and replaced few items .

 

[neoaliphant]

Been trying to find Burt Bees in the local Tescos, but suspect its in the fenced off Holland and Barrett section.

I like the fact that its the only balm that comes in a tube rather than a stick/pot.

 

[neoaliphant]

Requires photos and obviously the final selection. Thank You!!

Im not getting it all out again, lol
might take a photo of the small pouches.....
This has been a very engaging thread, well done.

 

[neoaliphant]

I hankered after a leatherman multi tool for years bought a wave last summer out of a surplus shop and tbh I haven’t really used it and one thing I don’t like about it is the weight it seems very heavy to carry ? Unless I’m getting weak in my old age lol

Thats the thing, some people swear by them, some say the surge is too large,
but at the moment ive been having on my person a knife, screwdriver (work), gerber artefact, mini leatherman clone thats a bit to small to handle the jobs i need it for, so im thinking even a surge wont be that much difference in weight, im always in an attic or top of a ladder when i need my decent pliers, and the cutters that come on a network crimp tool never work, and I always end up leaving pliers in the car.

 

[neoaliphant]

Requires photos and obviously the final selection. Thank You!!

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First image
Viper tacpac at the back got from Mike Dixon stoneage bushcraft

4 molle pouches from ali express
( Torch pouch on the road m3 pro- cr123 battery 1000 lumens , tiny, also does strobe, sos, beacon about £26)
( batteries taken from inside dead laptop battery, look to be 16340 in size, i use these with a nify battery charging cable thats in the pouch that can charge up batteries in between the magnetic prongs, or use the battery as a battery bank)
(paracord pouch and grappling hook)
(Tools- fake mini leatherman, buck smidgen knife, ali express carabiner tool, planning to replace on a proper leatherman surge)

onya shopping bag

Second image
Top left a molle grenade pouch for repair and fire kit, (lighter inside for the hot glue sticks etc) ferrod rod fits nicely in a cloth tube down side of pouch

true utility waterproof case holds glucose sweets and the all important skittles snack size ( only 5p a bag just after halloween!)

a small wallet that has minippen, paper, fresnel, whistle etc

2 glowsticks

3 more ali express molle pouches-
mini medkit/hygiene
cold kit- mylar blanket, mini poundshop gloves, pack up tiny, handwarmer
hot kit- sunblock,facemask,earplugs, bug headnet, insect repellant

buff

Fisher price canteen from an adventure kit, first piece of bushcraft gear I got when I was 5, so its 40 years old, and is still great. fits nicely in molle expanding radio pouch

all the pouches fit on belt, ( glowsticks and trueutility case and wallet in to pockets)
or they all fit nicely in tacpac
or in to front pockets of molle 40L daypack

daypack also has fleece, food/messkit, tech puch chargers, sas survival guide, mini axe, shemagh etc

feedback welcome.....

 

[neoaliphant]

And also important safety tip, the flagstone floor pictured above that I was cutting with an angle grinder the other year.
it jumped and cut through my leg, bit of ducktape and i finished the floor.
turns out 6 inch gash an inch deep, and the nurse at the hospital wasnt impressed that i taped the wound closed, the argument that I wanted to finish the floor before it started raining just got raised eyebrow

So now I keep ducktape all over the place....

 

[billycoen]

I put a bit of kapok in my fire kit,it's really cheap at B and M.

 

[Bishop]

As I always say there are no right or wrong gear choices merely interesting ones. To me it looks a little heavy, then again I'm kinda small so that's a scale/style thing. The true utility box however I have had issues with these specifically and similar style containers;
1. made of perspex, they crack, shatter and sure as hell don't like the cold or being dropped, knocked etc
2. the slightest mis-alignment when you snap the draw catch shut will make the main hinge explode
3. O ring prone to sticking after prolonged storage, requiring force to open.. see 2 about mis-aligned forces

 

[neoaliphant]

As I always say there are no right or wrong gear choices merely interesting ones. To me it looks a little heavy, then again I'm kinda small so that's a scale/style thing. The true utility box however I have had issues with these specifically and similar style containers;
1. made of perspex, they crack, shatter and sure as hell don't like the cold or being dropped, knocked etc
2. the slightest mis-alignment when you snap the draw catch shut will make the main hinge explode
3. O ring prone to sticking after prolonged storage, requiring force to open.. see 2 about mis-aligned forces

Good points
Thanks for the comments

most of the time its in the car or the tacpac is on the back of the bike
but I often add several to my belt or a knapsack depending on situation, if im out on jobs i take the tools, medkit, tech and repair pouches, in summer leave cold pouch behind etc.

i do like the modularness, can move them around without having to unpack things.

I take your point about the true utility case, it was more to use up a spare case i had lying around, i might get anotehr case for this

weight wise, this is one of my smaller kits ive had ( ok the tabacco tin 35 years ago was smaller)
but im constantly moving things between this and the "car" kit.

but then kit sorting is quite therapeutic.