Survival Tins - Updates

Jared

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Does anybody offer a rectangular mug with butterfly handles, detachable bail and waterproof clip closure that fits into the leg pouches of the trousers?

I don't understand why we still cram the stuff in cigarillos boxes.

Only rectangular mug I've seen is the BG bottle & mug combo.
There was the classic SIGG oval 0.6l bottle and mug combo, but that's long discontinued.

Neither had bails or lid though.
 
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Erbswurst

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The Wehrmacht mug was also pretty small, and we did successfully loose a world war with it.

The German soldier got of course a 1,5 litre + 400 ml mess kit too.

But I think in a survival situation a little mug should be better than a cigarillo box.
 

Minotaur

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Does anybody offer a rectangular mug with butterfly handles, detachable bail and waterproof clip closure that fits into the leg pouches of the trousers?

I don't understand why we still cram the stuff in cigarillo boxes.
Sigg Hip Flask is the only one I can think of.

I think we use a tobacco style tin because until recently it was the best option. I still think a steel tin is the best option available until someone makes a 300ml square mess tin anyway.
 
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Erbswurst

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No, it should be a little metal mug for water purification.

Mother was this:


And Daddy was this:


Where are the children?


But the Sigg cup is already not so bad.
One could perhaps make a Tupperware lid for it with the 3D printer.
 
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BrewkitAndBasha

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Hi all,
Just a few thoughts on upgrades, worthy of consideration IMHO:
**SOLKOA in the USA make a couple of fantastic(ally expensive) quality rigid aluminium containers for survival tins now, if you can afford such top-tier kit.
**Snaphook fishing kits are very effective.
**Folding saws and razors (Sabercut if I recall correctly) are also well made.
**NATO 1 liter waterbags are also a good upgrade from the condom; tough, reusable and fold flat.
**Swedish Hammaro waxed tinder paper packs flat and burns well.
**Photon lights to replace the old "betalight" concept.
**Cammenga tritium wrist compass.

Albest,
B&B
 

Erbswurst

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If you don't have a full tang knife a saw and small blade also can do a lot.

 
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Minotaur

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If you don't have a full tang knife a saw and small blade also can do a lot.
I think the question I am asking is what are you using a saw for because could could you do it with a sabre saw blade (which you could sharpen the other side of and maybe make a handle for) or is it worth finding the space for a chain saw?
 

Erbswurst

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If you can get firewood without saw, the Victorinox saw should be OK.
If you have to count with deep snow, a chainsaw is surely worth to think about.
 
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Minotaur

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If you can get firewood without saw, the Victorinox saw should be OK.
If you have to count with deep snow, a chainsaw is surely worth to think about.
The wire saws were always a bit of a waste of time so just wondering if this a military hold out or an actual useful item?
Useful item give a chain saw the space depending on the use.
 
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Jared

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Think some in the military have cottoned on, Arctic F-35 pilot kit has a japanese ARS Tools folding saw. For wood and cutting snow blocks.
 
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Minotaur

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Think some in the military have cottoned on, Arctic F-35 pilot kit has a japanese ARS Tools folding saw. For wood and cutting snow blocks.
That is really interesting I wonder why that product?
Some interesting points off the top of my head:
1) It is a made in Japan product.
2) It is a Japanese style saw.
3) It is a maximizing space kit because that why it different from the standard kit, the space for it is smaller.
 

BrewkitAndBasha

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Why do we carry a saw in a survival tin?


You are surposed to fill the free space with cotton wool something I missed years ago and I do not have free space so wonder how he packs it?
A small folding saw or wire saw just gives you an advantage - better than not having one surely? Wire saws work fine; they may not last long but if it gives you a head start on cutting shelter poles or a few long branches for firewood then that again is better than nothing. The survival tin was always designed to be a short-term provision of survival aids.
The tinder card takes no space really, just lying flat at the bottom of the tin. Only about 1mm thick.
 
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