Trouble is, all the clearing up afterwards. Imagine the landowners thoughts if he see's 10 or 15 debris shelters dotted about the woods. Tarps lightweight, fast and no enviromental impact.
Colin.
Suffolk Bushcraft Group
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Trouble is, all the clearing up afterwards. Imagine the landowners thoughts if he see's 10 or 15 debris shelters dotted about the woods. Tarps lightweight, fast and no enviromental impact.
Colin.
Wouldn't be a problem if we collected all the wood from our respective shelters after the first night and used them on the fire the second night as a group... meanwhile we switched to tarps for that second night.
Gonna be a lot of wood to carry from site to site if your camping in 2 woods. All I'm saying is that using a tarp is easier and more versatile, especially for 1 night.
I would consider making a shelter if it was for a few nights, but 2 to 3 hours or more collecting materials and then building the shelter when its p155ing down, then clearing away next day, won't suit many.
I would consider making a shelter if it was for a few nights, but 2 to 3 hours or more collecting materials and then building the shelter when its p155ing down, then clearing away next day, won't suit many.
Gonna be a lot of wood to carry from site to site if your camping in 2 woods. All I'm saying is that using a tarp is easier and more versatile, especially for 1 night.
I would consider making a shelter if it was for a few nights, but 2 to 3 hours or more collecting materials and then building the shelter when its p155ing down, then clearing away next day, won't suit many.
I'm not saying that everyone has to build a natural shelter, just that I'd like to for the additional "challenge" of doing so.
I completely and utterly agree with you that tarps are infinitely better in pretty-much every way... but there's not really a challenege in using one as compared to building a shelter.
Also, the kind of shelters I used to build way back when were just wooden frames coated in ferns (or leaf-rich boughs, depending on availability of materials). They were easy enough to carry with me (because I did that when going from woodlands to fields). I'm not thinking of building a giant log cabin
Watching this with interest, I very aware that if we did the Challange on the New campsite farm, I know that we have permision to build one shelter, that can be used over and over, I am a bit reserved to back the natural shelter part of the plan, until we are well established with Phil, last thing I want is for one of his tenents that Copice the woods around there to say look what they left, and moan about it, it would be so easy to do, then he gets the hump and things end there.
I know that some do know how to build a shelter and what to use, I know that there are only three of us at the mo that are going to do teh challange, but some others are interested and numbers will grow, myself I am sticking with a tarp its easy and quick.
My suggestion is that next meet those that would like to do a natural shelter for now build one main one back at the Main Camp, and then we use that...
I have kept quite up until now about natural shelters for this challange, I know unlike me.... I just dont want to spoil it, but I would like to work on some other things that I am hoping to ask if we can do like Air Gun use for targets, and archery for targets, and of course other things.
I am trying to please every one, and trying to get the mix right with the things/activitys we do to keep interest, and not end up a group that turns up and just sits round the fire.
I can see the feelings of both sides of the Parties, I am sure that we can come to some agreement wich will meet a compromise, But would like to Keep this challange as near to the Origanal as possible the two base navigation Idea is extra to the brief but makes it more interesting and brings in other skill like navigating...
I will go back to the original kit list on the Thread that this came from...
kit list
2 wool blankets or one bedroll.
waterproof tarp.
knife
axe or saw. only one of them.
flint and steel.
tinder box
water bottle
billy can.
cup.
spoon
food
lighting preferably candle but torch is ok.
basic water filter. ie mill bank bag or the likes
rucksack to carry items in. more kudos to those who do not use a pack
if for whatever reason you cannot have an open fire either a stove or fire box is fine.
if water is not safe or readily available at usual site then an extra five litres is permitted
safety items
phone.
first aid kit
camera to take photos
I know that some do know how to build a shelter and what to use, I know that there are only three of us at the mo that are going to do teh challange, but some others are interested and numbers will grow, myself I am sticking with a tarp its easy and quick.
My suggestion is that next meet those that would like to do a natural shelter for now build one main one back at the Main Camp, and then we use that...
I have kept quite up until now about natural shelters for this challange, I know unlike me.... I just dont want to spoil it, but I would like to work on some other things that I am hoping to ask if we can do like Air Gun use for targets, and archery for targets, and of course other things.
I am trying to please every one, and trying to get the mix right with the things/activitys we do to keep interest, and not end up a group that turns up and just sits round the fire.
I can see the feelings of both sides of the Parties, I am sure that we can come to some agreement wich will meet a compromise, But would like to Keep this challange as near to the Origanal as possible the two base navigation Idea is extra to the brief but makes it more interesting and brings in other skill like navigating...
I will go back to the original kit list on the Thread that this came from...
kit list
2 wool blankets or one bedroll.
waterproof tarp.
knife
axe or saw. only one of them.
flint and steel.
tinder box
water bottle
billy can.
cup.
spoon
food
lighting preferably candle but torch is ok.
basic water filter. ie mill bank bag or the likes
rucksack to carry items in. more kudos to those who do not use a pack
if for whatever reason you cannot have an open fire either a stove or fire box is fine.
if water is not safe or readily available at usual site then an extra five litres is permitted
safety items
phone.
first aid kit
camera to take photos
If the woodland we end up doing this in is not permissive of building shelters from natural materials, then fair enough... I'll use the tarp. Ultimately I think it really depends on where we end up doing this
For my part i was going to use non distructive methodology for the shelter set up but i'm really not bothered about this as i know i can build one so am more than happy to just settle down in my bivi bag and blankets for the night. i agree that several people building natrals could possibly give the owner cause for concern.
Nice axe work by the way Stuart and i also would be happy to learn more about navigation. As i have said starting next year i will be doing a two year bushcraft course so the more i am familiar with now the less i have to worry about then.
At the end of the day the Daniel Boone thing is only a fun challenge for us and as i have spent nights in far worse locations i won't loose any sleep whatever way it's played.
Nice axe work by the way Stuart and i also would be happy to learn more about navigation. As i have said starting next year i will be doing a two year bushcraft course so the more i am familiar with now the less i have to worry about then.
At the end of the day the Daniel Boone thing is only a fun challenge for us and as i have spent nights in far worse locations i won't loose any sleep whatever way it's played.
hi, At the end of the day the Daniel Boone challenge should be fun for all of us, my bedroll may look like a sleeping bag, my candle may look like a head torch, and my flint and steel mite have zippo on it. my water will come from home or tesco's and my phone will be switched off, my backpack will be full, my smile will be ear to ear. im sure mr boone would have used all the mod cons of his time if he had them at hand, as will i. only thing is ? will my camp fire look like a jetboil or a wood stove mk2t ?. i hope i have not upset anyone regarding my list of up to date kit, but im going to have a nice time on my daniel boone challenge and no tree's or ferns will be harmed on my watch 
later boys
and no tree's or ferns will be harmed on my watch later boys
Doing a job for a farmer in Easton who is happy for us to use a couple of his woods for bushcraft, details to follow. We will be spoilt for choice at this rate!
FioFO
FioFO
hi, At the end of the day the Daniel Boone challenge should be fun for all of us, my bedroll may look like a sleeping bag, my candle may look like a head torch, and my flint and steel mite have zippo on it. my water will come from home or tesco's and my phone will be switched off, my backpack will be full, my smile will be ear to ear. im sure mr boone would have used all the mod cons of his time if he had them at hand, as will i. only thing is ? will my camp fire look like a jetboil or a wood stove mk2t ?. i hope i have not upset anyone regarding my list of up to date kit, but im going to have a nice time on my daniel boone challenge
Sounds like my kind of "challenge" lol
FioFO
hi, At the end of the day the Daniel Boone challenge should be fun for all of us, my bedroll may look like a sleeping bag, my candle may look like a head torch, and my flint and steel mite have zippo on it. my water will come from home or tesco's and my phone will be switched off, my backpack will be full, my smile will be ear to ear. im sure mr boone would have used all the mod cons of his time if he had them at hand, as will i. only thing is ? will my camp fire look like a jetboil or a wood stove mk2t ?. i hope i have not upset anyone regarding my list of up to date kit, but im going to have a nice time on my daniel boone challenge
I suppose it doesn't matter if Stu's backpack has "Discovery" on it, either
I also suppose it won't matter too much if my "crook knife" has "Black & Decker" on it
if you can fit it in your back pack and carry it in, then thats ok with me, ps dont forget your tarp and stove
ps dont forget your tarp and stoveI suppose it doesn't matter if Stu's backpack has "Discovery" on it, either
I also suppose it won't matter too much if my "crook knife" has "Black & Decker" on it
if you can fit it in your back pack and carry it in, then thats ok with me,
I can't really fit that Frontier Stove in my Bergen... it's ever-so-slightly too big
I can't really fit that Frontier Stove in my Bergen... it's ever-so-slightly too big
Have a look on youtube... There is bound to be a video on how to do it.....
Bet you could if you wanted to lol
I can't really fit that Frontier Stove in my Bergen... it's ever-so-slightly too big
I'll make sure mine was cold before I tried..... Thats if I had one of course...
2 Night Monthly Suffolk Bushcraft Group Meeting 7th and 8th June 2013
All Welcome, Newbies, all levels of experience, Tree and Ground Dwellers.
Location
A 10 Acre mixed Woodland that is very quite and secluded, and lends itself to wild camping, both in Hammocks and Tents, just outside of the village of Stansfield- 14:00 hrs, normally finishing about midday on the Sunday. Please be on time as the Woodland is hard to find.
Cost
The Camp Site charge is £10 per person for the Weekend, fees for the site to be paid to me (Big Stu) as you arrive, this will have to be in cash.
Under 18s
Are welcome to attend, they are the responsibility of the Parent/Guardian that they came to the meet with.
Behaviour
Our meets, are good natured and light hearted, with safety in mind, we ai to carry this on with self regulation, if it does not then the offending person will be asked to leave immediately.
Facilities
This is a very wild site...The nearest Toilets, Shower are back at the Bayments Farm Yard, the nearest Tap is about a 600m from the Woodland.
Personal Hygiene - there is NO toilets in the woodland, apart from the ones at the Farm, please bring your Hygiene kits, There is a Group Latrine that is to be used in all case's, it is a requirement of the Landowner.
Housekeeping
There is no Facility to leave rubbish on site or at the farm, please bring a Rubbish Bag for your waste and take it home; we have had occasions were other peoples pitches have been cleaned up by others, You Carry In – You Carry Out.
Fire Places and Fire scar’s to be kept to a minimum, this will depend on activities, if you make a Fire Scar for any reason, other than communal one, then it is your responsibility to clean it up, The Main communal Fire is Everyone’s responsibility to clean up after.
Group Meal,
There is normally a Group Meal on Saturday would anyone attending like to offer to do it?
(The Group meals are supplied but the person making them, then the cost is divided between the participants, please remember Cash is required)
Other Info
We probation at this site, so please keep to the simple rules and treat it with respect.
The Car Parking for the woodland will be about 800m away from the woodland, we are allowed to drop off and pick up at the woodland, if the ground is too wet then, most of the gear will have to walked in, I can arrange for help for people that can not walk that far due to a health reason, I need to know this in advance.
I will be taking the normal, Griddle, and tripod, Coleman Lamp, also a couple of Tarps, for a group shelter,
Wood can be gathered from around the site, Dead Wood only to be used.
Of course Photo's and the Micky being taken is compulsory....
And Fluffy Hot water bottles/slippers are welcome.....
Also don't forget, people do bring swaps and items for sale, so a meet can be a great place to get some kit.. reason to bring a little bit of cash with you.
All Attendee's, attend and take part in any activities at their own risk....by attending you agree to this term.
First Aid
There are no First Aid facilities on site, so you will need to bring your own kit,
The nearest A & E is 20 minutes drive at;
West Suffolk Hospital
Hardwick Lane
Bury St Edmunds
Suffolk IP33 2QZ,
Switchboard: 01284 713000
If you plan to attend, then Paste and Copy the Whole Post and place name on bottom of list, adding also if you require the Group Meals and how many nights you’re staying,
List of Attending
1. Big Stu - 2 Nights
2. Remeavi Thanatos - 2 nights
3. SJStuart - 2 nights
4. Zeon98 2 nights
5. mitch66 - 2 nights
6. ROMAN-SOLDIER 2 nights
7. Broomstickize - 1 night (poss. 2)
Following a couple of Phone converstions, PM's and thinking how long it was that I had done some Navigation by Map and Compass - Think last time I did some major navigation was back in 1991 on a two week experdition to Alps......, would it be a good idea, if we had a Brush up session on Map and Compass work
It also looks like a Natural Shelter Build would be a good idea as well in the Base Camp area somewere in the corner..lets make the most of what we have there
The next core dates for the monthly meets-depending on how things go I will try to get some more nights, I will hope to do a Four Nighter at some stage.
July 5th and 6th 2013
August 2nd and 3rd
September 6th and 7th 2013.
All Welcome, Newbies, all levels of experience, Tree and Ground Dwellers.
Location
A 10 Acre mixed Woodland that is very quite and secluded, and lends itself to wild camping, both in Hammocks and Tents, just outside of the village of Stansfield- 14:00 hrs, normally finishing about midday on the Sunday. Please be on time as the Woodland is hard to find.
Cost
The Camp Site charge is £10 per person for the Weekend, fees for the site to be paid to me (Big Stu) as you arrive, this will have to be in cash.
Under 18s
Are welcome to attend, they are the responsibility of the Parent/Guardian that they came to the meet with.
Behaviour
Our meets, are good natured and light hearted, with safety in mind, we ai to carry this on with self regulation, if it does not then the offending person will be asked to leave immediately.
Facilities
This is a very wild site...The nearest Toilets, Shower are back at the Bayments Farm Yard, the nearest Tap is about a 600m from the Woodland.
Personal Hygiene - there is NO toilets in the woodland, apart from the ones at the Farm, please bring your Hygiene kits, There is a Group Latrine that is to be used in all case's, it is a requirement of the Landowner.
Housekeeping
There is no Facility to leave rubbish on site or at the farm, please bring a Rubbish Bag for your waste and take it home; we have had occasions were other peoples pitches have been cleaned up by others, You Carry In – You Carry Out.
Fire Places and Fire scar’s to be kept to a minimum, this will depend on activities, if you make a Fire Scar for any reason, other than communal one, then it is your responsibility to clean it up, The Main communal Fire is Everyone’s responsibility to clean up after.
Group Meal,
There is normally a Group Meal on Saturday would anyone attending like to offer to do it?
(The Group meals are supplied but the person making them, then the cost is divided between the participants, please remember Cash is required)
Other Info
We probation at this site, so please keep to the simple rules and treat it with respect.
The Car Parking for the woodland will be about 800m away from the woodland, we are allowed to drop off and pick up at the woodland, if the ground is too wet then, most of the gear will have to walked in, I can arrange for help for people that can not walk that far due to a health reason, I need to know this in advance.
I will be taking the normal, Griddle, and tripod, Coleman Lamp, also a couple of Tarps, for a group shelter,
Wood can be gathered from around the site, Dead Wood only to be used.
Of course Photo's and the Micky being taken is compulsory....
And Fluffy Hot water bottles/slippers are welcome.....
Also don't forget, people do bring swaps and items for sale, so a meet can be a great place to get some kit.. reason to bring a little bit of cash with you.
All Attendee's, attend and take part in any activities at their own risk....by attending you agree to this term.
First Aid
There are no First Aid facilities on site, so you will need to bring your own kit,
The nearest A & E is 20 minutes drive at;
West Suffolk Hospital
Hardwick Lane
Bury St Edmunds
Suffolk IP33 2QZ,
Switchboard: 01284 713000
If you plan to attend, then Paste and Copy the Whole Post and place name on bottom of list, adding also if you require the Group Meals and how many nights you’re staying,
List of Attending
1. Big Stu - 2 Nights
2. Remeavi Thanatos - 2 nights
3. SJStuart - 2 nights
4. Zeon98 2 nights
5. mitch66 - 2 nights
6. ROMAN-SOLDIER 2 nights
7. Broomstickize - 1 night (poss. 2)
Following a couple of Phone converstions, PM's and thinking how long it was that I had done some Navigation by Map and Compass - Think last time I did some major navigation was back in 1991 on a two week experdition to Alps......, would it be a good idea, if we had a Brush up session on Map and Compass work
It also looks like a Natural Shelter Build would be a good idea as well in the Base Camp area somewere in the corner..lets make the most of what we have there
The next core dates for the monthly meets-depending on how things go I will try to get some more nights, I will hope to do a Four Nighter at some stage.
July 5th and 6th 2013
August 2nd and 3rd
September 6th and 7th 2013.
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