I'm also wondering about that! I now know that my woodland is definitely not available... and the last message on the subject suggested a wild camp in Rendlesham.
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I'm also wondering about that! I now know that my woodland is definitely not available... and the last message on the subject suggested a wild camp in Rendlesham.
I am not a fan of the Jetboil, bit of a one trick pony, but good for what they are designed for...boil water fast.... and only runs on Gas, so you have to make sure you have got enough, the other thing with gas is the operating temps... to cold and the pressure drops...
Myself I have a Hexi burner, and a small esbit burner cup set, also I use a Swiss Army Trangia, its always a trade of between weight size and comfort, so you got to decide what you want to do, if its lightweight camping then you got to go light weight, myself I like the SAT to the Trangia, as it gives you a wind sheild can be used with meths, wood, hexi if really needed, also give you different ways of cooking as well, I perfer to cook over wood all the time, then you got the wood gas stove, myself if your using one of them then you may as well have a small fire, some do carry kitty litter for fuel, but if your doing that then you may as well use meths/gas/hexi..
As I say its horses for courses, and its what you come to like and get used to, in some ways unless you are doing a lightweight walk in, and Hiking some distance, weight and space should not be an issue..
Myself I have a Hexi burner, and a small esbit burner cup set, also I use a Swiss Army Trangia, its always a trade of between weight size and comfort, so you got to decide what you want to do, if its lightweight camping then you got to go light weight, myself I like the SAT to the Trangia, as it gives you a wind sheild can be used with meths, wood, hexi if really needed, also give you different ways of cooking as well, I perfer to cook over wood all the time, then you got the wood gas stove, myself if your using one of them then you may as well have a small fire, some do carry kitty litter for fuel, but if your doing that then you may as well use meths/gas/hexi..
As I say its horses for courses, and its what you come to like and get used to, in some ways unless you are doing a lightweight walk in, and Hiking some distance, weight and space should not be an issue..
Thanks for the advice guys I will do a bit more research,
I would be up for the stealth camp in Rendlesham next week that's what im trying to get my cook kit sorted for.
I would be up for the stealth camp in Rendlesham next week that's what im trying to get my cook kit sorted for.
As Stu says, it depends what you're after. I've seen a lot of people just carrying around the infamous IKEA stove, and feeding it from kindling sticks, using a couple of tent/tarp pegs as a pot stand and away you go. Note that the IKEA stove doesn't fit inside the 12x5 (I've tried... it's way too large)
If you're going to have a natural camp fire, you don't need anything else in your kit since you can cook directly in the Tatonka mug (I've done it many times).
Again, it's a tradeoff between flexibility and weight/bulk. The more fuel options you cater for, the more weight/bulk you have to carry.
To be honest, aside from the smaller two pans in my Coleman set, the Tatonka mug and my alcohol/meths stove (and fuel bottle)... I don't really know of a good "cook kit" that'll fit comfortably inside the 12x5. The Jetboil does, but as Stu said... it's "a one trick pony"
If you're going to have a natural camp fire, you don't need anything else in your kit since you can cook directly in the Tatonka mug (I've done it many times).
Again, it's a tradeoff between flexibility and weight/bulk. The more fuel options you cater for, the more weight/bulk you have to carry.
To be honest, aside from the smaller two pans in my Coleman set, the Tatonka mug and my alcohol/meths stove (and fuel bottle)... I don't really know of a good "cook kit" that'll fit comfortably inside the 12x5. The Jetboil does, but as Stu said... it's "a one trick pony"
My mistake the tree straps were from UK hammocks not DD, Matt has already agreed to replace it, no quibble.
Think I may get some seat belts or climbing straps now as my confidence Is lacking.
I did have some of the new DD tree huggers, but had issues with then on the first hang I did with them, DD replaced them with the old type, not had any problems since, before I had the dd ones I used to make my own, but at that time could not be bothered, one of the main problems I have noticed with whoopie slings and the marlin spike knot is that unless it is done right the whoopie sling can rub/melt its way through the tree hugger, I dont think its a temp/moisture problem, but never say never..
I use a wood gas stove with a small trangia meths burner as a backup and also an ikea stove sometimes. Used both last night.
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I'm going Carl's route and getting some industrial-grade climbing rope and minimizing the number of connected parts (I want just one connecting part on the hammock suspension per side).
Also, for Stu's sake... my tree huggers are the newer DD ones (brown webbing material) which have been fine up until last night (where one of them grew massively sending the hammock tumbling, and my whoopie sling flying with the sound of a high-tension cable snapping)
First time I've ever had a tree strap fail me, but again I have to stress just how cold and wet it was last night! I think we went beyond the material tolerances!
Glad I was only sitting in it prior to packing up, I would have been upset if it went during the night, yup another vote for Carl's setup
It's rare to see tree huggers fail... but seriously, has anyone ever seen two fail in one night? This is what leads me to think we just went beyond the material tolerance with the temperature and moisture. Mine stretched (and I've now had a look and determined that it's stressed the material so much I have to replace the hugger now) and yours went further and broke (probably due to the added weight of your underquilt?)
Carl's setup is far more robust because his has only one connection between the strap and the hammock (mine has three, and I believe yours does too Paul, am I right?) and his material is massively overengineered (designed for a much heavier-duty use)
Personally, I'm not going to complain too much that my hugger failed simply because we were hammocking in such an extreme (once you factor in the ice and wind chill, the numbers become completely absurd) that DD and UKH likely never imagined anyone being crazy enough to spend a night in
Carl's setup is far more robust because his has only one connection between the strap and the hammock (mine has three, and I believe yours does too Paul, am I right?) and his material is massively overengineered (designed for a much heavier-duty use)
Personally, I'm not going to complain too much that my hugger failed simply because we were hammocking in such an extreme (once you factor in the ice and wind chill, the numbers become completely absurd) that DD and UKH likely never imagined anyone being crazy enough to spend a night in
I had the Brown ones from DD, that ended up like this... after two nights, that was back in November
I now have the Old Black ones which seem better, used my own 2" home made ones before with no troubles, I know that I used heavier duty webbing then the ones that I have had from DD, maybe that's why I never had a fail before, even through the wet and cold that I have hung in, is it the fact that people are always chasing the weight pack size goal, and thats what drives what the manufactures use... there has to be something that gives in the end?
I now have the Old Black ones which seem better, used my own 2" home made ones before with no troubles, I know that I used heavier duty webbing then the ones that I have had from DD, maybe that's why I never had a fail before, even through the wet and cold that I have hung in, is it the fact that people are always chasing the weight pack size goal, and thats what drives what the manufactures use... there has to be something that gives in the end?
Personally, I'm not going to complain too much that my hugger failed simply because we were hammocking in such an extreme (once you factor in the ice and wind chill, the numbers become completely absurd) that DD and UKH likely never imagined anyone being crazy enough to spend a night in
I am still not that convinced that is is the weather, -6 is not that extreme... loads of people are out this time of year in worse then this... some have even been to Norway, in -25 type extremes in hammocks on this forum
With the amount of water buildup and the wind chill factored in, anything wet in the wind last night would easily have been hitting the -25 mark. Hell, all of our lines were frozen solid to the trees this morning when we were packing up. Besides, I'd imagine the tree huggers they use in places like Norway are more substancial than the ones we're getting from DD and UKH?
All I know is that two tree huggers of slightly different types failed in a similar way on the same night under the same conditions.... and neither of us were overloading on weight. We hung properly, so that leaves environmental conditions as the only remaining suspect.
Hi, i got home ok, roads were a bit tricky a 184mile all round trip. id like to thank simon and paul for a grate night, it was a bit on the chilly side, but it was ok. The small meths stove is a white box stove, the larger one of the two they make, i bought it from backpackinglight they sell some good kit. have you boys been to tesco yet to get your boil in the bag grub. thanks for the bags simon, but one of the looks a bit yellow lol. (only joking) paul thanks for the snakeskin and dont forget the larger unit hope your happy with the knife. all the best carl
boil in the bag grub. thanks for the bags simon, but one of the looks a bit yellow lol. (only joking) paul thanks for the snakeskin and dont forget the larger unit hope your happy with the knife. all the best carlIt's not yellow, Carl, it's Khaki
I haven't been up to Tesco today (they close at 4PM on Sundays, and I've had a lot to get done today (busy busy... gotta pay for the gadgets and gear somehow, right?) but I'll be going to Tesco tomorrow evening for the weekly shop anyway so I'll be looking for them!
I haven't been up to Tesco today (they close at 4PM on Sundays, and I've had a lot to get done today (busy busy... gotta pay for the gadgets and gear somehow, right?) but I'll be going to Tesco tomorrow evening for the weekly shop anyway so I'll be looking for them!
Just had a call from the lady at NT... the only fire that is allowed in teh communial fire and there is not a lot of room around that to cook, all cooking is therefore done on stoves.... now I am not sure if I really want to go ac the fire thing is most of a camp to me.....
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