Show us your bows

Toddy

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Fair Game or Kit Chatter :dunno:

It's not really showing dead stuff, or aggressive weaponry, it's just a show and tell of archery equipment.
If it keeps to this vein I can't see why it needs to be in Fair Game.

How about I shift the thread to Kit Chatter and we'll see ?

I'll leave an expiring redirect for a week in Out and About.


Nice Toys gentlemen :D :D

cheers,
Toddy............two compounds up the loft, torn rotator cuff on right shoulder means no playing though :sigh:
 

Stuart69

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Thanks Toddy, I wasn't sure where to put the thread. I didn't think "fair game" was a good idea as we all know bow hunting is illegal in the UK.

atb,
Stuart
 

Cromm

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Toddy

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Thanks Toddy, I wasn't sure where to put the thread. I didn't think "fair game" was a good idea as we all know bow hunting is illegal in the UK.

atb,
Stuart

No worries :) It was an awkward one, wasn't it ? It's not 'quite' sharps and suchlike and it's not hunting with them.
I think in here sounds reasonable.

Did I say that we've gotten the okay for archery at Comriecroft at the Meet up ?

cheers,
M
 

Nonsuch

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OK guys, go easy on me. I know it's gotton out of hand and fully intend to sell a few someday.
From the top.

Robertson Stykbow - Don't have that one any more, that's an old pic.
Border Griffon GL
Border Black Reiver
Bear Kodiak Magnum

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Home made laminate longbow. My only attempt at making one that didn't blow up in my face.
A wee Howard Hill longbow.
Internature glass horsebow affair
Samick Lightning(Doc should be on commission:))
Hoyt Gold Medalist
...and a PSE compound in the background.

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Oh, and there's an old compound in a case that I forgot about.

Grooveski, and others, I see you unstring your wooden bows for storage but leave your recurves strung up. Another puzzling piece of advice I was recently given by target archers was to unstring any type of bow, including take-down recurves. What's your view ?

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Grooveski

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Grooveski, and others, I see you unstring your wooden bows for storage but leave your recurves strung up. Another puzzling piece of advice I was recently given by target archers was to unstring any type of bow, including take-down recurves. What's your view ?

Thanks
NS

Yeah, I'm with Cromm on that one.
Those couple were only strung because I'd been using them the day before and hadn't got round to it yet(I string take-downs for traveling quite often so they don't rattle about or in yon hoyts case fall apart).

I'll leave them strung for a weekend at meets or the likes but mostly so folk can still have a go if I'm off for a wander.

The wee bear has been left strung for weeks at a time on occasion so I could just lift it off the wall and play darts in the house. Never done it any harm but didn't change my outlook towards storing them in their relaxed position.
 

Doc

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I just have two -though I guess Josh's little collection started that way...:)


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Top is the Samick Lightning. A lot of bow for the money. Essentially it is similar to the many custom hunting recurves, but is factory made in China. It's pretty fast and forgiving. AFAIK it's not suitable for FF strings. It's 60" long, available in various draw weights. Mine is 45lb. A great bow, though those over six foot might prefer something a little longer.

Bottom is a 1968 Bear Tigercat, black glass and maple limbs and Zebrawood riser. Classic hunting recurve from pre-compound days. There are plenty of Bears on US ebay, but collector interest raises the price. Shakespeare, Indian archery, Colt Browning, Ben Pearson, Root and others made similar bows.

The main risk of damging a recurve is limb twist while stringing it. I leave them strung. The Bear has been left strung this past five years or so. There is no sign of it 'following the string'.
 

Grooveski

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The main risk of damaging a recurve is limb twist while stringing it.

Aye there is that. I've come close to messing up a couple of times when I've not been concentrating enough.
When I got the Reiver they said there was no need to ever unstring it. I just do it out of force of habit.

[Edit - Don't think my dad has ever unstrung the Samick I gave him. That's a few years now and it's fine too]
 
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Paul_B

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I'm glad someone pointed out that bow hunting is illegal in the UK as I was wondering where you guys all hail from to go out with your bows. Over here I guess you only have target stuff to do. Used to do it on an indoor range at Uni. I nearly went into it but as a student I figured my grant cheque was better spent down the boozer than a £100 plus bow. Now they seem to be a lot cheaper for a starter kit so perhaps I should give it a go. I used to live on the hill above where the Salmesbury bowmen (or whatever they were called). A local archery club that was particularly into the English longbow. Traditional style of archery I guess. That is what I'd like to do, guess I'm a little bit proud of my English roots and think of the English Longbow as the super weapon of its day, Anyone know what the English longbow draw weight would have been?
 

wattsy

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I'm glad someone pointed out that bow hunting is illegal in the UK as I was wondering where you guys all hail from to go out with your bows. Over here I guess you only have target stuff to do. Used to do it on an indoor range at Uni. I nearly went into it but as a student I figured my grant cheque was better spent down the boozer than a £100 plus bow. Now they seem to be a lot cheaper for a starter kit so perhaps I should give it a go. I used to live on the hill above where the Salmesbury bowmen (or whatever they were called). A local archery club that was particularly into the English longbow. Traditional style of archery I guess. That is what I'd like to do, guess I'm a little bit proud of my English roots and think of the English Longbow as the super weapon of its day, Anyone know what the English longbow draw weight would have been?

some have been tested as 150lb's they didn't do things by halves in those days lol
 

Paul_B

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I know they dug up a guy at an archaeology site once and looked at the bones assessing the guy to be really quite strong judging by the thickness and density of his bones. Turned out he had an imbalance which they interpreted as he was an archer. It could have been a battle burial or not as I can't completely remember. Anyway it was a cue to show an English longbow being made by an expert in that weapon and then a draw weight test and some scientist calculating the original draw weight of one dug up somewhere. Anyway the one made for the programme was a lot less than the estimated weight of the dug up original one. Anyway due to the regular practice they had to do the dead longbowman had developed stronger bones to cope with the stronger muscles he developed whilst doing this archery. There was a difference between his left and right arms.

It was a long time ago this documentary but it was interesting for someone who is interested in archery and the English history of the bowman. BTW what is the typical draw weight used in modern bows? Does anyone know how the English Longbow compares to modern bows in terms of range and accuracy? Probably not an easy question to answer and shows my ignorance of the subject.
 

Grooveski

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Longbows are every bit as accurate as modern recurves in the right hands.

Personaly I find them trickier because my wrist doesn't have as much movement as a lot of people's and I have a hard time with low wrist getting the contact patch down to the heel of my hand.
I have the same problem with all straight handled bows. Bought a Yumi on ebay once but the chap selling it couldn't find a courier that'd touch it. Shame - was the real deal, all tied up bamboo sections. I'm betting I'd have had the same problem with that too.

As for range, My longbow isn't as efficient as a matched weight modern bow but then I'm a rank amateur at making them.
Doesn't really matter anyway. You just aim a bit higher. :)
 

wattsy

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yeah my info comes from the tests done on the bows from the mary rose, the bodies of the archers on there had twisted spines and bone spurs on they're arm joints from the hours of practice with such heavy bows.
interesting thing with yumi's they're shot off the thumb not the knuckle like a european bow
 

Grooveski

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I've tried that a couple of times with the horsebow and a thumb ring. The results weren't encouraging but then trying something a couple of times isn't the same as learning how to do it.
One thing I'll say about having a lot of different styles of bow is that it does absolutely nothing for your form. Switching from bow to bow each week just confuses things.

The Mary Rose bows were an incredible find. They always make me think of what it'd have been like in camp with a hundred guys all having just been handed stock bows. It'd be a whittle and tiller fest. :)
 

Nonsuch

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How did they manage the arrow inventory in the days of longbow archers ? I believe each man went into battle with four dozen. That's thousands of arrows. Did they have fletchers along with them cranking them out from hazel wands harvested along the way or were the shafts, feathers and points all shipped out with the army ?

I assume after the battle the longbowmen would be out on the field pulling arrows from the ground and out of dead Frenchmen..."Oy look Bert - that's one of mine in that Frenchie knight !"

NS
 

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