Thankyou mikergj, The purpose of my thread was to see other peoples opinions, I have learnt now and it will not happen again
Thanks again for your support
Thanks again for your support
Ben, you are truly a good, patient man, i cannot praise your good manners enough mate.
fair play to you Ben and long may you continue.
For your camp to be reffered to as a "tramps dosshole" is an opinoin which everyone has a right to, however i was always brought up with "if you dont have anything nice to say, then dont say it at all"
Anyone would think there is some kind of hive mind at work here. Look, vigorous debate and robust opinion is natural and healthy. It's part of life [<--link], it's how we measure the checks and balances that keeps our feet on the ground and keep us heading in roughly the right direction. I dont see why the interweb should be immune from it and and I dont think it should be. I do realise that some people think we should all just get along with a big hug and a bit of a kiss, but that's possibly a little unrealistic. I said the shelter looks like a tramps dosshole, because that's just what it looks like, mainly because of the carpet and because it's so close to allotments. I also doubt that anyone is simple minded enough to change their behaviour, solely as a consequence of some blokes opinion on the internet. If frank and robust opinion upsets you that much, you are probably going to make yourself ill using internet chatrooms.
Beenn, we've probably got off on the wrong foot here, but well done for taking it down. Unfortunately "leave no trace" means "leave no semi-permanent shelters" unless it's your own back garden. That's not just because it's unlawful, it's just considerate to leave our tiny bit of countryside free of eyesores so others can enjoy it too. Obviously other people disagree. If my opinion on the subject came across strongly, that is because I feel strongly about it and I intended it too - and I have no intention of patronising you with insincere apologies, other than to say I hope you realise my criticism of your shelter was nothing more than that. We are all adults. Whatever you choose to do, I'm sure you'll make up your own mind and follow that.
Anyone would think there is some kind of hive mind at work here. Look, vigorous debate and robust opinion is natural and healthy. It's part of life [<--link], it's how we measure the checks and balances that keeps our feet on the ground and keep us heading in roughly the right direction.
I dint see why the inter web should be immune from it and and I dint think it should be. I do realize that some people think we should all just get along with a big hug and a bit of a kiss, but that's possibly a little unrealistic.
I said the shelter looks like a tramps dosshole, because that's just what it looks like, mainly because of the carpet and because it's so close to allotments. I also doubt that anyone is simple minded enough to change their behavior, solely as a consequence of some blokes opinion on the internet.
If frank and robust opinion upsets you that much, you are probably going to make yourself ill using internet chatrooms.
Beenn, we've probably got off on the wrong foot here, but well done for taking it down. Unfortunately "leave no trace" means "leave no semi-permanent shelters" unless it's your own back garden. That's not just because it's unlawful, it's just considerate to leave our tiny bit of countryside free of eyesores so others can enjoy it too. Obviously other people disagree.
If my opinion on the subject came across strongly, that is because I feel strongly about it and I intended it too - and I have no intention of patronizing you with insincere apologies, other than to say I hope you realize my criticism of your shelter was nothing more than that. We are all adults. Whatever you choose to do, I'm sure you'll make up your own mind and follow that.
I agree.
Again i agree, but as adults we should be able to get on and discuss matters in a civilized way.
I agree it looks like a gypsy den, however i and others have given him constructive criticism
*deffinition of constructive criticism;-
Constructive criticism, or constructive analysis, is a compassionate attitude towards the person qualified for criticism. Having higher experience, gifts, respect, knowledge in specific field and being able to verbally convince at the same time, this person is intending to uplift the other person materially, morally, emotionally or spiritually. For high probability in succeeding compassionate criticism, the critic has to be in some kind of healthy personal relationship with the other one, which is normally a parent to child, friend to friend, teacher to student, spouse to spouse or any kind of recognized authority in specific field. Hence the word constructive is used so that something is created or visible outcome generated rather than the opposite. Participatory learning in pedagogy is based on these principles of constructive criticism, focusing on positive examples to be emulated over precepts to be followed.*
which after reading your posts, you clearly have not gave any other than derogative remarks and accusations.
I agree, however as Beenn is a new member and clearly wants to learn, a bombardment of abuse could of led to him not bothering, going somewhere else, thinking that this forum is for elitists and very hostile.
I agree that we should have no eyesores on our wonderful countryside, however it was private land and he had permission, therefore he could have left it there but he chose not to.
Yes we are all adults and criticism is wanted by everyone, however its the way we say it. If you genuinly wanted to advise and help, then your post's would have reflected it.
I may only have a small post count, compared to you Martyn, but i always try to be helpful and offer advice if needed.
ATB
Have a look at this site for semi permanent camp, four parts i think..
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Ally
what an ausome guy you must be ben cos u my mate can hold your head high cos as has been said you have taken the harsh crit and acted on it in a manner that is trully respectable and i salute u mate cos i know if it had been me i would ave Pi*(( off straight away never to return
but this forum is as i and many will testify what i say really is the best around thanks for sharing
drew
Have a look at this site for semi permanent camp, four parts i think..
http://wn.com/WEZO24522164
Ally
Have a look at this site for semi permanent camp, four parts i think..
http://wn.com/WEZO24522164
Ally