Rucksack Design

9InchNinja

Settler
Feb 9, 2012
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Having seen the RM Leaf Cutter backpack, I now have a hankering for a new pack. I do like the RM one, but it doesn't "do" all the things I want it to.

I spoke to the company who makes them, and enquired about getting my own bespoke one made up. This isn't a problem, if I buy 25. Now my wife is very forgiving, but even she wouldn't let that slide.

So, I'm going to get a design spec sent over to the company and see how much of the custom parts are possible & cost effective.

I've never set out a spec for a backpack or anything like this before, so I'm looking for ideas really.

So, what would you like to see on a rucksack?
 

copper_head

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Feb 22, 2006
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For a large pack my number one concern would be the back system, it must be highly adjustable or produced for different back lengths.
 

ex-member BareThrills

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Dec 5, 2011
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For a large pack my number one concern would be the back system, it must be highly adjustable or produced for different back lengths.

what he said + attention to padding on the straps and a solid waist belt that is comfortable and rigid enough to transfer the weight to your hips. fixed rockets as i dont need them to be a day sack and a good sized lid pocket. something with a built in front pouch would be nice like ribz but built in
 

santaman2000

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Jan 15, 2011
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Perhaps a good adjustable external frame. The pack (or several different packs) could be made to fit said frame. If you cab find a frame that already fits you then you could even do away with the requirement that it be adjustable.
 

Lister

Settler
Apr 3, 2012
992
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Runcorn, Cheshire
Adjustable back system
PLCE compatibility
YKK Vislon Zips
one handed pelvic belt
floating lid
saw/axe sleeve (to stow/hide a tool outside the pack without need for sidepockets
MOLLE/PALS attachment points everywhere :p
Removable pack (to give just the back/straps like the TECMAC) - This gives a useful carrying platform (would help with mountainman's idea)
Poles carriers (not just the loop style but tube style to put the pole in)
 

jacko1066

Native
May 22, 2011
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I think 50 litre main pack and a 10 litre pouch each side.

Removable would be excellent, if not most certainly compression straps on it.

My snug pak rocket pack has an attached pack cover that stuffs in a small pocket on the bottom, I think that is a Great feature but certainly not essential.

As said above an axe carrier would be good as would a net pocket on the front running the length of the pack to put wet tarps etc so they can dry.

Watching with interest
 
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Shewie

Mod
Dec 15, 2005
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Bushcrafty packs rather than lightweight for the hills. Tough fabrics without being over engineered, simple design, no outer stretch pockets to snag when you're bushwhacking, but good sized pockets to store the sharps, doesn't mind spending some time getting covered in moss, mud, leaves, brambles, sand, snow and a good dose of our weather.


Autumn/Winter Pack:

60-70 litres
Load limit 18kg
One main compartment
One small front pocket
Side pouches to take axe and water bottles
Top lid pocket with secure inner pocket
Load lifters
Fixed back but size options available
Good padding on fairly wide shoulder straps
Good padding on hip belt, with pockets on each side
Basic compression system
Sternum strap
Solid weight cordura for the high wear areas
1.5 - 2kg


Spring/Summer Pack:

30-40 litres
Load limit 10kg
One main compartment
Side pouches to take axe and water bottles
Roll down top closure
Sternum strap
Fixed back but size options available
Light padding on narrower shoulder straps
Light padding on hip belt, with pockets on each side
Basic compression system
Solid weight cordura for the high wear areas
1.0 - 1.5kg
 
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Johnnyboy1971

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Dec 24, 2010
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Would it not be easier to start with a pack your reasonably happy with and get that modded then take that to production.
 

tamoko

Full Member
Jun 28, 2009
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For realistic price I would like to buy something like "C-SAR ruck on Kifaru Bikini Platform", made in Kevlar like on CRUX AK.
Large Ruck like RM Leaf Cutter I can find by berghaus, Atlas II for example.
 

Paul_B

Bushcrafter through and through
Jul 14, 2008
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For me it's a large main compartment, a large lid pocket with double zip pulls and stretch fabric so it can expand if full. add a front pocket with two strips of stretchy material either side of a strip of non-stretchy fabric and a compression strap that goes round the top and to both sides. what this does is give a large pocket for wet gear like bivvy, tarp or shell layers. The vertical stretchy strips would allow gear to be held in the bulges in this fabric without movement. the non-stretch centre is where the single centre lid strap goes. I like angled side pockets big enough for bottles made out of stretchy fabric with drawcords to cinch closed around contents such as bottle. angled for bottle removal and replacement without stopping to take bag off. I'm now a convert to hip belt pockets, very useful. I'd like pockets on shoulder straps too but they must be removable and easily put back again if needed. In fact I think the shoulder straps should form a series of fixing points for anything from phone pockets, emergency whistles, compass, other pockets and a large map/gear pocket that stretches across whole front like OMM does. I like the little plastic bits on innov8 racepac for attaching chest straps,whistle and various optional extras like pockets.

Back systems need to be simple and work. I like lightweight kit so it needs to be beloiw 1kg if 30-40 litres or about 1.0-1.3kg for 40-50 and even to 60 litres. My preference not to everyone's liking of course.

fabric needs to be light but tough. waterproof too but no taped seams, perhaps welded if dream pack. Also not rough so it won't wear hard shell jackets on contact points.

internal frame which is removable and made of alloy strips linked in a pivot at shoulders. only for larger sack sizes of course. small volume sacks don't need a frame IMHO.

The above is my dream, wish list.

reality for me was a modified Aiguille Alpine sack. they're very good at making custom mods. just find one or two of their standard sacks as start point then discuss your wish list of design changes. they'll let you know what works and that they can do. got a good, long back length sack that was light,ntough, simple and made with my personal choice of fabrics. tough where needed, lighter in low wear areas.
 

The Cumbrian

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Nov 10, 2007
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Wand pockets and side compression straps can be used to carry all sorts of bits and pieces (axes, saws, poles, rolled up taps or waterproofs etc) without asking much weight to a pack.

I once read an article about climbing packs by Andy Kirkpatrick (should be on the net somewhere) where he was trying to find the perfect climbing pack; in the end he bought a "lightweight"climbing pack of the shelf and cut off all the extraneous pieces he didn't want.
 

mousey

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Jun 15, 2010
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There seems to be alot of people wanting and external frame to attach bag to. I've been thinking about a 1606 fram from downeast [yes - like dangerous dan] with various bags/pouches/dry sackes bungied/ strapped to it.

I suppose it a question of if the frame fits you... [and you want to fork out post, packing & customs from america]...
 

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