Help me design . . . a sack-carrying rucksack/frame.
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If all you are after is a cheap pack frame you could look at C-Claycomb's suggestion of a Roycroft Pack Frame.
I recently started to have a "play" with the concept. It is / can be constructed as a take-down so takes up little space when not in use.
A couple of links here both from Karamat instructors, the first with Mors Kochanski and the second with Kelly Harlton:
I recently started to have a "play" with the concept. It is / can be constructed as a take-down so takes up little space when not in use.
A couple of links here both from Karamat instructors, the first with Mors Kochanski and the second with Kelly Harlton:
Hmmm.. see post #4
"Dragging anything is a no-go. I have rough ground to cross, old peat diggings. So have to get up and down 2ft banks."
For anyone else curious about how it was done back in the day.
darachcroft.com
Peat creels made from willow.
The Lost Craft of Woven Creel Making — Darach Social Croft
Creel ( cliabh in Gaelic) is a general term covering several forms of Scottish (and Irish) baskets. For many centuries these woven baskets were used to carry peat, seaweed, earth, fish and even babies and young children over distances. Similar baskets were used elsewhere in Scotland, such as ‘ kis
darachcroft.com
Peat creels made from willow.
Oops, missed that.Hmmm.. see post #4
"Dragging anything is a no-go. I have rough ground to cross, old peat diggings. So have to get up and down 2ft banks."
Roycroft is definately a good idea. You can go a long way with the concept, I have steam bent mine to contour with my back, and I can strap all manner of things to it.
My experience of commercial frame packs puts me off buying anything unless I can try it on; both of the pack frames (one old Karrimor, one cheap nameless) pressed into the bones of my pelvis. What can I say? I just have a very wide bottom.
Oddly, the women carried peats in a creel, men carried them in a sack. (All the way home, which could be quite a way; my bank is 5km from my house)For anyone else curious about how it was done back in the day.
The Lost Craft of Woven Creel Making — Darach Social Croft
Creel ( cliabh in Gaelic) is a general term covering several forms of Scottish (and Irish) baskets. For many centuries these woven baskets were used to carry peat, seaweed, earth, fish and even babies and young children over distances. Similar baskets were used elsewhere in Scotland, such as ‘ kis
Peat creels made from willow.
The pictures on that site give a good idea of the bulk that I carry on each trip.
Tragebütte / Bütte / Weinlesekiepe is an option that I would choose. That are ergonomically designed plastic buckets with shoulder straps up to 70 litres, so far I see at a short look. You can put a plastic bag as a liner inside, fill it, close the bag, carry it where you want and afterwards throw out the closed bag.
Such things exist surely also for apple picking and perhaps even in the UK.
That here just looks as if it's made of wood, but it's plastic. They offer different designs and sizes.
www.fischer-lahr.de
Such things exist surely also for apple picking and perhaps even in the UK.
That here just looks as if it's made of wood, but it's plastic. They offer different designs and sizes.
Lagerverkauf: Trage-Bütte in Holz-Optik zur Weinernte/Weinlese, lebensmittelecht, 60 Liter Volumen inkl. Trageriemen
Fischer Kellereitechnik (Motofischtec) (Art.-Nr.: 8106483 ) Die Tragebütte in Holzoptik, besteht aus lebensmittelechtem Polyethylen. Diese Tragebütte wird benutzt, um das Lesegut schonend aus den Weinbergen zu tragen und ist auch im Gartenbau oft im Einsatz. Tragebütte 60 Liter in Holzoptik. Die...
www.fischer-lahr.de
I've made a pack frame using pallet wood, bits of cord and stuff lying around. Will post pictures tomorrow, when I've had a chance to test it out. (Hopefully it doesn't break straight away!)
If you get stuck (or your made one isn't working) I can send measurements from my 70's Karrimor external frame pack(s). I have a couple- different size bags.
Both obtained quite recently off the Evil Bay for a small amount and both in immaculate condition. There's quite often such things on there.
GC
What about a lightweight sack truck? You could fasten some closed cell foam to the back and buy some backpack straps to fasten to the truck. If wide enough, you could leave the wheels attached, or alternatively drill the centres out and attach using clevis pins so they are easily and quickly detachable. That way, you have the option to carry the truck on your shoulders over rough terrain and wheel it on terrain that allows. Perhaps it could be a long term solution to make life easier rather than just short term whilst your injury repairs.
Have you tried a tump line? When I was into canoeing we did massive portages in Scotland carrying all our gear and canoes using tump lines/straps.
Also used them to collect drift wood for camp building and fires on the foreshore. Worked well on uneven ground.
Surprisingly easy to make and they do work once you get used to the idea.
Photo from internet
Also used them to collect drift wood for camp building and fires on the foreshore. Worked well on uneven ground.
Surprisingly easy to make and they do work once you get used to the idea.
Photo from internet
Never tried a tump line, although, as a spectacles wearer, they fill me with fear.
Would still need a frame to attach the sack to (you don't look very happy in that picture!)
Would still need a frame to attach the sack to (you don't look very happy in that picture!)
That’s not me. It’s just a photo I found on the internet.
You can use them with a frame - they also work as in the photo.
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