Ray Mears - Survival Handbook - Possibles

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Minotaur

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Re-reading this book and was amazed by how dated this chapter was. Always really liked this idea of carrying stuff you need and not a kit that never seems to get used.

What do you almost always carry?

Think about it for a minute.

I have just started cycling to work, so my work rucksac fell by the wayside in favor of a messenger bag. I say this to get across that I have been thinking a lot about what is always there.

It was weird things like: -

Compass - I own one and even carry it in the wild, but the last time I used it was two years ago to find bearing to put up a TV areial. If I want to know north or a bearing, I have a phone for it. Wonder where I am GPS.

Pocket knife - in the wild, not a chance, that for no reason places. With reason it leatherman always.

Also always carry water, spork, and a fold up rucksac that doubles at least what I can carry.
 

Lupin Rider

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I have no idea what this means
I think he means he always carries a pocket knife legal folder (for the places where he has " no reason for a knife") except when he has a reason to carry in which case he uses a leatherman except in the wild.

clear as mud.
 

Tiley

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So you would bin your compass in favour of your phone or a GPs? Foolish.

I agree - very, very foolish. If being 'dated' is the point of discussion here, it perhaps is, and certainly will be 'dated' to get your bearing from your mobile or GPS. Because of its simplicity, accuracy and lack of dependence on a power source, the compass will always prevail. Personally, my mobile is for 'phone calls and texting; I don't bother with a GPS as I get huge satisfaction and equivalent, if not greater, accuracy from a map and compass.
 

Graveworm

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I enjoy using a map and compass but I don't carry a magnetic one all the time anymore, which is what the OP is alluding to. For that I find the phone and watch more than enough, especially given the former has OS maps for the whole country and beyond and the latter never needs the battery replacing.

I have used just the phone many times because I always have a kit in the car to take advantage of unexpected opportunities to get out and about (and this includes a compass) but it obviously doesn't have every OS map.
 

Thoth

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I know what you mean about the book appearing dated when compared to his slicker, newer books. And regarding the kit he discusses. One of the interesting things in the 1990 'The Survival Handbook' were the Twelve Woodlores. Ray still places high importance on these and his instructing staff at Woodlore are expected to be familiar with them. It seems odd that they didn't reappear in the later books or on his website.
 

Minotaur

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I think he means he always carries a pocket knife legal folder (for the places where he has " no reason for a knife") except when he has a reason to carry in which case he uses a leatherman except in the wild.

clear as mud.

Sorry, what I get for posting on way out work. Yeah that was what I meant. I cycle to work now so get to carry leatherman all time :)

I agree - very, very foolish. If being 'dated' is the point of discussion here, it perhaps is, and certainly will be 'dated' to get your bearing from your mobile or GPS. Because of its simplicity, accuracy and lack of dependence on a power source, the compass will always prevail. Personally, my mobile is for 'phone calls and texting; I don't bother with a GPS as I get huge satisfaction and equivalent, if not greater, accuracy from a map and compass.

I would not argue against the compass. My point was more struggling to remember the last time I used one. The last time I touched it was to put it in my top rucksac pocket with the map and then forget about until next time. The world has changed so much since this book was written so much.

I know what you mean about the book appearing dated when compared to his slicker, newer books. And regarding the kit he discusses. One of the interesting things in the 1990 'The Survival Handbook' were the Twelve Woodlores. Ray still places high importance on these and his instructing staff at Woodlore are expected to be familiar with them. It seems odd that they didn't reappear in the later books or on his website.

I was really looking forward to re-reading it and it so far has disappointed apart from things like the Twelve Woodlores.
 
i think what we have to remember is that the book being reffered to was the first UK oritentated book about this topic albeit it was survival then rather than bushcraft
the kit choices are definately influenced by what was available on the market without the internet or online shopping, he even wears shock horror denim jeans in a lot of the pics in the book
there is quite a difference between the kit discussed in this book and the follow on which was the outdoor survival handbook which didnt have that bigger time gap between when they were printed. and there is a massive difference between kit recommended in the survival handbook and the essential bushcraft book following on from the tv series. kit views change once an opinel, a dartmoor survival knife and an estwing hatchet were the must haves now it is mora or woodlore or custom knife and a gransfors bruks in another decade it could be another selection


edit to add-if thoth doesn't come up with the twelve woodlores i shall put them up tomorrow when i can refer to the book definately useful to know....
 

Corso

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indeed but how much of that realy works for the UK? I think his first book was just that, his first go

I've the '92 hand book and while its still called an outdoor survival book its much more bushcraft in style
 
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Graveworm

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Just wondered Thoth but what are The Twelve Woodlores?

1. Don't challenge nature, challenge yourself:
Occasionally you will hear people talking about beating the elements by conquering a mountain or crossing an ice cap or some such brave deed. The truth is that the challenge is internal. Have you the skill? Can you overcome your fear? No one can beat the elements; all those that fail to heed the warning signs or have the stupidity to press ahead regardless, die. Instead of taking unnecessary risks challenge yourself to know when to turn back; learn to be more skilful; above all challenge yourself to better understand the way nature works.

2. If you're roughing it, you're doing something wrong:
Any fool can be uncomfortable, you gain no points for carrying a heavy backpack, or for any deeds of self-imposed endurance. While you may train for an expedition by roughing it, if there is a way of making yourself more comfortable, without the effort becoming a disadvantage, do so. In emergency situations in particular, just a small amount of hardship can prove to be fatal once your level of morale has dropped.

3. Always give 100% effort the first time:
Whether shelter building, firelighting, or whatever, if you don't set about it in the right way the first time you are wasting your energy and will simply have to start from scratch again.

4. Aim to achieve maximum efficiency for minimum effort:
To work you need energy; for energy you need food. In the outdoors finding food is work. When you gather your firewood for your fire do you carry large armfuls to the log pile or do you only fill your hands?

5. Never pass by an opportunity:
This is very important. As you travel along, should you find suitable water, food or firelighting materials, gather them as you pass since you may not have the opportunity later when they are needed. This is particularly true of fire building materials whereby the end of a day's travel it may be raining or have rained earlier soaking the available tinder. Many of my old shirts and jackets have birch bark pieces in the pockets that I gathered some years ago now.

6. As far as you can, adapt your expectations to a level which you can meet given the circumstances:
If you cannot build a large comfortable shelter, be satisfied with a small shelter. If there is not a wide variety of wild foods available to you, be grateful for the one type you can eat. Make your psychology work for you. Be realistic - make yourself comfortable but do not over-work yourself to achieve this: it's no use building a palatial shelter if you then collapse with exhaustion inside it. But also do not underestimate what you can achieve.

7. Only eat that which you have positively identified as edible:
Do not trust taste tests or in any way experiment with unfamiliar plants or other materials for use as food. The only real way to eat in safety and confidence is to learn what can be eaten and just how to prepare the food before you set out. If this seems like hard work you should not be eating wild foods.

8. Suspect all water as being infected:
Even the cleanest, coolest most alluring water may well be contaminated; you cannot tell at a glance. Boil or purify all water - check in particular for signs of chemical pollution, this may be concentrated by boiling!

9. The state of your fire is directly proportionate to your level of morale:
Whatever your level of morale, if you can light a fire it will be raised, but if you fail it will plummet like a stone. If you are not confident of your ability to light a fire in the rain it may well be better to wait until the rain stops before trying.

10. Whenever gathering your resources use natural selection as your guide, this is the 'way' of nature:
Leave the strong, harvest the weak; when gathering food you should always leave a proportion of healthy plants, shellfish or whatever to continue the line. By this lore stronger healthy creatures will have the best chances for survival and thereby proliferate in the future.

11. Take only memories leave only footprints:
Wherever possible minimise your impact upon the natural environment, and always aim to leave a campsite in a better state then you found it.

12. Be fit, able to swim and do not give in:
Every single skill or technique which follows is easier to learn and master if you are fit. The outdoors is filled with risks and the danger of unpredictable circumstances. Your fitness may well be your last line of defence in such circumstances.
 

demographic

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indeed but how much of that realy works for the UK? I think his first book was just that, his first go

I've the '92 hand book and while its still called an outdoor survival book its much more bushcraft in style

I've got both the SAS one and Rays Survival book and there's quite a lot in them that's basically the same info presented in a different way.

Or so I thought anyway.
 

Elen Sentier

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... Compass - I own one and even carry it in the wild, but the last time I used it was two years ago to find bearing to put up a TV areial. If I want to know north or a bearing, I have a phone for it. Wonder where I am GPS ...

Goodness, you obviously don't go where I go ... no signal & no charge, that's why I go :D. Maps tell you so much more than GPS too and don't run out of electricity, compass always works unless you're standing on a magnetic fault :). Reminder to self ... must get a watch so I can do direction :)
 

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