There's logic in your assumption of the cause (possible cause) and in your possible solutions. But considering the undertaking you're planning I thinl I would consult a specialist in sports medicine.
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I'd take SERIOUS consideration of Santaman's advice, if your planning to 'push on through' I'd place good money you'll easily come away with a long term injury that may affect you and won't be eay to make go away even if it does.
I'd really consider see a Gait specialist AND drop some of the weight you are trying to get comfortable with. No-one is doubting you ability to handle weight and move , we're all ( i think ) just doubting your ability to come away without a long term injury and messing yourself up.
I have no doubt it's just some soft tissue inflammation so I think I'll just hold off from running and walking and instead rest it combined with light activity until it goes (if it goes!). I dislike so called specialists as you can never be sure your hard earned cash is going to produce results/cure like my girlfriends chiropractor who had her return 12 times at £30 a pop with absolutely no benefit to her. It's utterly mind boggling how some people "earn" a living in this world.
I find that if I lift off with my heal instead of rolling on to the front of the foot then lifting off, I don't feel the dull ache. This results in a slight limp, but might be a good non-agitating exercise for strengthening the inflamed tendon which is what I'm pretty certain is the problem with me. I just read walking on your heals is a good way of strengthening your foot tendons. Don't you just love google's ability to self-diagnose!
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@ OP - I'm going to give up reading this thread , to be blunt your not listening to people that have I guess far more experience of this , and are trying to advise you accordingly.
I wish you well but I think your well due for an injury mixing try to change a non-neutral walking gait with your walking.
The foot pain you're getting might be plantar fascitis, worth seeing the Doc about before you go.
I'd look at trying a pair of trekking poles out if you can, they'll take a load of the weight of your knees on ascents and descents, handy for putting a light tarp up too if you take one.
I'd look at trying a pair of trekking poles out if you can, they'll take a load of the weight of your knees on ascents and descents, handy for putting a light tarp up too if you take one.
This is getting ridiculous,...dude I don't know if you're having us on or not but if you are seriously planning a long, strenuous hike, a heavy pack an' all, with pre-existing tendon, ligament or muscular injuries then common sense should tell ya to call it off....You can walk on ya heels or on tippy toes if ya like but your problems arn't just gonna disappear or wear off..
It's the last time I read this thread too....
It's the last time I read this thread too....
Lub dude listen to the guys, the ex-military types did this for a living, they know the problems.
As you are a cyclist you may need orthotics insoles to correct the gait. Past the age of 27 repeat injuries take a lot more time to heal and strengthen, ever wondered why footballers retire young?
This walk is a good aspiration but you now have to replan according to what is happening to you physically, not what you want to happen.. Get a few chaps to meet you at critical points for resupply etc, that way wont have to come down from the track. I can predict what will happen is if you don't correct it, it will only partialy heal and on a bad day in the wet and cold and your on your own, it will go pop! Then you will discover why soldiers carry morphine and what the true meaning of a 'world of S*%t!' is.
Be brave, listen and rethink!
"No campaign plan survives first contact with the enemy" Carl Von Clausewitz
Sandsnakes
As you are a cyclist you may need orthotics insoles to correct the gait. Past the age of 27 repeat injuries take a lot more time to heal and strengthen, ever wondered why footballers retire young?
This walk is a good aspiration but you now have to replan according to what is happening to you physically, not what you want to happen.. Get a few chaps to meet you at critical points for resupply etc, that way wont have to come down from the track. I can predict what will happen is if you don't correct it, it will only partialy heal and on a bad day in the wet and cold and your on your own, it will go pop! Then you will discover why soldiers carry morphine and what the true meaning of a 'world of S*%t!' is.
Be brave, listen and rethink!
"No campaign plan survives first contact with the enemy" Carl Von Clausewitz
Sandsnakes
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"Don't you just love google's ability to self-diagnose!"
Just read this thread again, and tend to think its a wind up to be honest, I may be wrong but its how its reading to me now either that or the guy just won't listen to common sense and has an agenda I can't understand.
Just read this thread again, and tend to think its a wind up to be honest, I may be wrong but its how its reading to me now either that or the guy just won't listen to common sense and has an agenda I can't understand.
Yep, pretty much. I'm out too.
If I'm wrong Lub0 I'm sorry
Make sure you post some pics from your trip.
I'm not joking around at all. This Monday I'll book an appointment with the doc. The weird thing about this is that it began in my left foot and now it's my right foot that's experiencing it. The dull pain has actually moved positions around the foot, so it's not just in one place for example just now walking to the shop I felt it behind my ankle and a shooting feeling up my achillies/calf muscle. There is no tenderness to the touch, nor redness or swelling. Anyone have any idea what this could be?
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Anyone have any idea what this could be?
I think your doctor could answer that best on Monday!
Oh, and couldn't resist a comment on your earlier post "I dislike so called specialists as you can never be sure your hard earned cash is going to produce results/cure like my girlfriends chiropractor who had her return 12 times at £30 a pop with absolutely no benefit to her. It's utterly mind boggling how some people "earn" a living in this world." You're quite right there; but thats the risk you take when you go to someone not professionally-medically (ie BMA) qualified.
I think your doctor could answer that best on Monday!
Oh, and couldn't resist a comment on your earlier post "I dislike so called specialists as you can never be sure your hard earned cash is going to produce results/cure like my girlfriends chiropractor who had her return 12 times at £30 a pop with absolutely no benefit to her. It's utterly mind boggling how some people "earn" a living in this world." You're quite right there; but thats the risk you take when you go to someone not professionally-medically (ie BMA) qualified.
< Breaking my own rules. I really don't want to respond again , but I'm hoping your genuine and not a troll. >
OP - Read the following
http://voices.yahoo.com/what-tibial-compartment-syndrome-runners-164380.html?cat=14
http://www.massagetoday.com/archives/2005/12/05.html
From this thread try and wrap your head around how many complex things are going on and how they can be creating as almost 'cascade failure' in an over worked joint when combined with a perculiar Gait and foot non-neutral foot strike.
< Please note all the very big words. >
http://www.physiobob.com/forum/pati...rtment-syndrome-tests-came-back-negative.html
I'm NOT saying you have anything listed above !! What I am saying is see how the training you are doing with the issues you have mentioned can have a radical and complex effect on joint integrity and effective ( pain free ) gait function , these issues which can quickly be compounded and multiplied as the body tries to find ways to cope with the Micro trauma can take YEARS to eliminate.
I suggest after you see the doctor you attempt to find a Gait specialist or Sports Physiotherapist and discuss the matter at length with them without any potential BS.
OP - Read the following
http://voices.yahoo.com/what-tibial-compartment-syndrome-runners-164380.html?cat=14
http://www.massagetoday.com/archives/2005/12/05.html
From this thread try and wrap your head around how many complex things are going on and how they can be creating as almost 'cascade failure' in an over worked joint when combined with a perculiar Gait and foot non-neutral foot strike.
< Please note all the very big words. >
http://www.physiobob.com/forum/pati...rtment-syndrome-tests-came-back-negative.html
I'm NOT saying you have anything listed above !! What I am saying is see how the training you are doing with the issues you have mentioned can have a radical and complex effect on joint integrity and effective ( pain free ) gait function , these issues which can quickly be compounded and multiplied as the body tries to find ways to cope with the Micro trauma can take YEARS to eliminate.
I suggest after you see the doctor you attempt to find a Gait specialist or Sports Physiotherapist and discuss the matter at length with them without any potential BS.
Thanks for the links, I'm definitely holding off all activity to give my foot complete rest until the pain has gone. Are gait specialists on the NHS?
Booked an appointment with the GP for 17th July but I must say today the foot has drastically improved to the point where I think it's 99% ok now. I did not feel the dull ache when lifting off, so it seems all was needed was two days rest however being someone who cannot stay in the house all day I did "cheat" by taking the dog for a quick walk, or should I say a limp!
I'll definitely be taking it easy for another few days just to be 100% sure that it's gone, though.
@TeeDee from reading your links caused all sorts of scary thoughts going round my head as to what it may be, but since the pain has gone today I reckon it was simply a mildly inflamed tendon or two. I'm glad I read the links though as it has certainly made me weary of how prone to injury were are!
I'll definitely be taking it easy for another few days just to be 100% sure that it's gone, though.
@TeeDee from reading your links caused all sorts of scary thoughts going round my head as to what it may be, but since the pain has gone today I reckon it was simply a mildly inflamed tendon or two. I'm glad I read the links though as it has certainly made me weary of how prone to injury were are!
Have you seen my avatar? I make Shrek look like David Beckham!
Not once was it enjoyable you won't be surprised to know;especially falling face first on sheet ice and then trying to stand up again with a 50kg load
. The only reason I started was because I needed to know I could carry all of my arctic kit in one big pack if all the snow melted out there and I couldn't haul it (which was very close to happening so I'm glad I prepped).
@Lub. Not just me, IntotheWild ( a member on here) carried 50kg (relatively) comforably in his too.
I can't recomend doing it but the pack is capable of that weight, yes. I carried 40 kg of water, 10 kg of weights and the 4.5kg of the pack.
