One month rule?

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Wayland

Hárbarðr
If someone is set upon the task of having a go at someone a probation period probably won't make much difference.

The "cowshedder" incident is perhaps understandable from his perspective having just heard a horror story from his Mum. The problem seemed to be his Mum giving him rather coloured information because she was upset.

As most of us thought at the the time this should have been discussed on the course and not on an open forum but the thread was closed, Woodsmoke did respond and all is now right with the world.

I suspect far from damaging their reputation their public response has done much to enhance it, quite rightly.

Returning to the probation period. My joining this forum was an impulse decision. I found the forum by accident and I joined and posted on the spot. I can't remember my first post but it was probably a stupid repetitive question of some sort. I'm still here but I probably would not be if I hadn't become steadily addicted after that first post. Who knows.
 

ColdIron

Member
Jun 27, 2004
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'I Have a problem and want your help, please'.
And then the reply: 'you are a probationary, and are not allowed to post the first 30 days'.

If that had been 'on' as I joined buscraftuk.com, I would not have become a member.
And probably never returned.

Not that I contributed a lot yet....
But one day...
If 'spam' is the issue, let somebody be 'newbie thread manager'.

Otherwise, please keep the forum 'public'.
 

john scrivy

Nomad
May 28, 2007
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may be there should be one of those poll things that happens on here and let members vote but let me say i have no prob with new members its not so far back when i was one --probbally sounding as daft as what some people are sugesting Im not brill with computers but not bad at bushcraft ive been on here for about six month now and enjoy-- BUT still not fully famillia with the site im 51 and have not been bought up with PCs like the not so older members --- please keep it the same -- this site is for every one who loves bushcraft and nature at what ever level of skills
 

Red Kite

Nomad
Oct 2, 2006
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As a relative newbie, can I put a slightly different slant to the argument.

Whilst there may be some repetition of questions from people new to the site (and I'm sure I'm guilty myself), it is the friendly way in which these questions are answered that encourages people to return the site.

As metioned in earlier posts I also browsed the site for several months before registering, and I wonder if its an age thing. Could it be that the younger generation (damn those peskie kids) used to jumping on the net and getting info immediately are the ones posting these questions? -I've not gone back to look at the threads so I could be way off base.

But if it is then I would sugest we should be tolerant and encourage their interest.

If newbies were greeted with a blanket ban or a "curt" referal to previous posts - then they may seek their answers elsewhere, with a resultant drop in membership.

Stewart
 

JonnyP

Full Member
Oct 17, 2005
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There is no need for a poll (twil only upset Wayland) This site is not suddenly going to change because a few folk think up an idea. I do think it is good to discuss idea's though. I personally think it would be a good idea if folk were not able to come straight on here and post. I agree a month is too long, maybe a week, maybe a couple of days. Anyway thats my thought, its obvious that most folk on here disagree and thats fine. It was only an idea after the cowshedder incident...
 

Tony

White bear (Admin)
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It is good to discuss this and there's is no need of a poll as it won't change that we're not putting a probationary period on new members, as it is they have to jump through the hoops to get in due to security. If people want to come on here and cause problems we'll deal with them as and when as we've always done, to be honest most of members don't even see how much we sort out before they get wind of what's going on, groups joining to cause trouble, individuals posting up horrid pictures etc, it all gets dealt with one way or another thanks to the tireless work of the mods.

To be honest i've got no issue with people joining and being able to post straight away, I have more issue with people making inappropriate comments, ranting etc and hiding behind a made up name, maybe something to discuss would be people having to use real names and supplying addresses so that if they make any slanderous statements we can just hand the details over to the police :naughty: I'm saying all that a bit tongue in cheek but my point is valid, people come on, make up a name and hide behind it, I understand this to a point but it does allow people to post with less consideration to the consequences.
 

Nightwalker

Native
Sep 18, 2006
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To be honest I haven't seen any truly horrid posts or flaming so you must be doing a real good job, I imagine the mods round here are right ontop of this stuff, so well done to those that help out. Not much else to discuss now then, eh?

aka Ashley Cawley ;)
 

Wayland

Hárbarðr
I can't remember now but I thought you recorded names on the sign up anyway?

I've been known as Wayland in real life for years, I've used it on many forums and it's the name the kids use for me in schools, so far more people know me as Wayland than have ever heard of Gary Waidson

Which name identifies me better?
 

Nightwalker

Native
Sep 18, 2006
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Whos 'Gary' Wayland? :p

Nah, I know both of your names thanks to two things; 1. your stunning photography & 2. Who else do I know who's a freelance viking? You're unique & I like that in people, I think people should be accepted/identified by whatever they want. I've got a friend named Mikey and his online alias has been Mirey for years, now everyone call's him Mirey in life too, he just came to prefer it.
 

Tony

White bear (Admin)
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Wayland :D

That's the thing, there's usually no problem with people we've known for a while, it's just when new people come onto the forum and we have no idea who they are, it's not a big issue, but take cowshedder fr instance, i'm not saying that he didn't feel warranted in what he said but Cowshedder isn't a real name and it doesn't allow a real person to be identified with what he said, if it was complete rubbish there's no come back.
 

Marts

Native
May 5, 2005
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London
I can't remember my first post but it was probably a stupid repetitive question of some sort. .

I think it was...

I have been looking for some time to get a pressure cooker for outdoor use.

The advantages are higher boiling point at altitude and faster cooking for general use.

The problem I am finding is that most modern pressure cookers have plastic external fittings which are not much good for use on a camp fire.

Does anyone know of an all metal make ? (seals obviously excluded)



:)
 

Hoodoo

Full Member
Nov 17, 2003
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Wayland :D

That's the thing, there's usually no problem with people we've known for a while, it's just when new people come onto the forum and we have no idea who they are, it's not a big issue, but take cowshedder fr instance, i'm not saying that he didn't feel warranted in what he said but Cowshedder isn't a real name and it doesn't allow a real person to be identified with what he said, if it was complete rubbish there's no come back.
Definitly one of the great hazards of the Internet. People say things while sitting at their computer that often they would never say to people face-to-face. Anonymity seems to lower people's inhibitions. In some instances, that can be good. In other instances, very very bad. :lmao: There are some forums that do not use handles. While I used to think handles were kind of neat, I think today I'd vote for posting of real names. It might make people think a bit more about what they post.

Terry Trier aka Hoodoo
 

Wayland

Hárbarðr
I think it was...

I have been looking for some time to get a pressure cooker for outdoor use.

The advantages are higher boiling point at altitude and faster cooking for general use.

The problem I am finding is that most modern pressure cookers have plastic external fittings which are not much good for use on a camp fire.

Does anyone know of an all metal make ? (seals obviously excluded)



:)
Blimey, that takes me back. I still haven't found what I'm after there but I keep looking..:D
 

leon-1

Mod
Mod
I don't like the idea of a trial period. I am not massively worried about threads being repeated, but what I don't imparticularly like is if thread topics are repeated just a matter of days after a prior resurgence.

Fine register come on have a good search and if nothing crops up then ask. I have searched on here for different things and ended up finding not just what I wanted to know, but in the search for the information that I wanted I found a number of other little gems. That's part of the beauty of the forum and the massive amount of information that it holds.

Leon Andrews aka leon-1
 

bushwacker bob

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Sep 22, 2003
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Definitly one of the great hazards of the Internet. People say things while sitting at their computer that often they would never say to people face-to-face. Anonymity seems to lower people's inhibitions. In some instances, that can be good. In other instances, very very bad. :lmao: There are some forums that do not use handles. While I used to think handles were kind of neat, I think today I'd vote for posting of real names. It might make people think a bit more about what they post.

Terry Trier aka Hoodoo
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 

brancho

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Feb 20, 2007
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I liurked for months before joining and this was thefirst of only two forums im on and I would not have batthered if i had been made to wait.

There is no need to change
 

hiho

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Mar 15, 2007
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i have lurked for quite a wile, and will probably lurk for quite a wile longer, plenty of information with no need to post just to add to a post count.
 

gorilla

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Jun 8, 2007
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repeat questions, rants, whatever - 'c'est la vie'
maybe my tolerance levels are higher - as a dad of 4 i'm used to answering the same question over and over and over, and dealing with irrational tantrums :D
like Tony has said, most bad stuff is dealt with without us commoners ever finding out, and if one or two get through it's no big deal - life throws idiots at us all every day, and we all deal with it without a protracted debate. Cowshedder, for example will doubtless never be seen again on here, so who cares? the mods will probably pull any future thread containing the word 'outdoorcode' before it starts, so that deals with that one. i think the single most important thing is that this fantastic site/forum remains open to all as it does now - the good outweighs the bad by a million to one, so it isn't an issue.
this is the only forum i am an active member on for just that reason
lurk, ask a repeated question, start an open discussion like this one - it's all good
 

Jodie

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Aug 25, 2006
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Strangely this thread actually made someone leave!!

As far as I can tell 'feisty' wandered off in a huff after posting post 19 - which seems a bit
like cutting off your nose to spite your face, given that this is one thread among many!
 

xylaria

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
I think the real name thing would put off the members that have jobs that are security senstive. We have a large in take from the armed services, at least one member that PSNI, and proberly prison officers and social workers as well. It can take very little to be found. If I still worked in the prison system I would think twice about signing on to a forum that used real names, even though most of my students were too thick to operate a computer.