In response to this thread;
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108254
It seems some of you carry quite "big" sacks so I'm interested what you take if you'd care to share.
A full 120lt sack is a frightening prospect. I've carried some big heavy sacks in my time, but nothing that size
I used both a 70lt and 35 lt for years, the 70lt started giving up the ghost (stitching on the strap buckles started failing) and I got sick of repairing it, the 35lt is too small for anything other than a day sack.
So I went out for a look and ended up being convinced by pals to get a 47lt sack, I don't do much technical climbing any more so no need to carry rope rack and other associated dedicated equipment, if I do I still have my battered old 70lt.
I take zero "what if kit" and generally have just the clothes I stand in, or can wear at any one time. The exception being spare socks trollies change of base layer spare gloves and a spare hat. When fully dressed thats the only clothing in my bag. When on the move in nice weather, shell bottoms are stowed in my jacket pocket and my jacket slung over a the bottom loop of my left shoulder strap, any other unworn kit goes in the sack.
In my bag go's plastic bag sack liner (cut down plastic sack, heavy duty type), in that: my sleeping bag, bivi bag in winter, tent, stove (or cut down version thereof, usually) collapsable water bottles (flat packed 2lt plastic drinks bottles, just roll them up, hold tight and replace the lid) and food.
On my bag, sleeping mat, ice axe and crampons in winter, knotless landing net and 7wt (sometimes a 5wt too) fly rod in summer
There's still plenty room in my 47lt sack at that to include a; simple washing kit, including soap, basic first aid kit (including small sharp scissors tweezers and iodine), needle and thread, candle, map and compass, head torch, knife/multi tool, folding saw if I'm headed to the bogs, a couple of clipper lighters in fully serviceable condition, ball of string, spare plastic carrier bags and a few cotton rags.
If I'm fishing, which is my usual motivation, I'll also have a few flies, dries and wets, a couple of spools of line a reel or two and a few bits and bobs.
My only compromise on "what if kit" is my wee radio which has been up graded with a "bigger" and so heavier (x 4) wee radio last year, a tecsun multi band, including FM MW LW SW & SSB as I like getting the weather forecasts, eg outdoor activities forecast 07:00 & 19:00 BBC Radio Scotland for scottish up lands and coastal waters as thats where I spend time in the great outdoors. And a book.
Result = a 47lt sack with some room to spare, for the fish
The biggest space saver I've noticed was moving from a bulky synthetic older style 4 season doss bag, to a modern 3 season synthetic version (mountain hardware Lamina 20), which is warm enough and comparable, if a little bulkier, to my old Rab 500g down bag, a bag in which I've had more than a few sub zero mountain evenings (summer alpine) to no ill effect. This new sleeping bag stuffs down quite a bit and has proven to be quite the space saver.
The tent is an Akto, not the lightest but better for it.
Obviously kit costs and I realize that some of the kit mentioned above could well be beyond the reach of some, but I'd be interested to hear what others take when they go for a spot of Camp and Carry?
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108254
It seems some of you carry quite "big" sacks so I'm interested what you take if you'd care to share.
A full 120lt sack is a frightening prospect. I've carried some big heavy sacks in my time, but nothing that size
I used both a 70lt and 35 lt for years, the 70lt started giving up the ghost (stitching on the strap buckles started failing) and I got sick of repairing it, the 35lt is too small for anything other than a day sack.
So I went out for a look and ended up being convinced by pals to get a 47lt sack, I don't do much technical climbing any more so no need to carry rope rack and other associated dedicated equipment, if I do I still have my battered old 70lt.
I take zero "what if kit" and generally have just the clothes I stand in, or can wear at any one time. The exception being spare socks trollies change of base layer spare gloves and a spare hat. When fully dressed thats the only clothing in my bag. When on the move in nice weather, shell bottoms are stowed in my jacket pocket and my jacket slung over a the bottom loop of my left shoulder strap, any other unworn kit goes in the sack.
In my bag go's plastic bag sack liner (cut down plastic sack, heavy duty type), in that: my sleeping bag, bivi bag in winter, tent, stove (or cut down version thereof, usually) collapsable water bottles (flat packed 2lt plastic drinks bottles, just roll them up, hold tight and replace the lid) and food.
On my bag, sleeping mat, ice axe and crampons in winter, knotless landing net and 7wt (sometimes a 5wt too) fly rod in summer
There's still plenty room in my 47lt sack at that to include a; simple washing kit, including soap, basic first aid kit (including small sharp scissors tweezers and iodine), needle and thread, candle, map and compass, head torch, knife/multi tool, folding saw if I'm headed to the bogs, a couple of clipper lighters in fully serviceable condition, ball of string, spare plastic carrier bags and a few cotton rags.
If I'm fishing, which is my usual motivation, I'll also have a few flies, dries and wets, a couple of spools of line a reel or two and a few bits and bobs.
My only compromise on "what if kit" is my wee radio which has been up graded with a "bigger" and so heavier (x 4) wee radio last year, a tecsun multi band, including FM MW LW SW & SSB as I like getting the weather forecasts, eg outdoor activities forecast 07:00 & 19:00 BBC Radio Scotland for scottish up lands and coastal waters as thats where I spend time in the great outdoors. And a book.
Result = a 47lt sack with some room to spare, for the fish
The biggest space saver I've noticed was moving from a bulky synthetic older style 4 season doss bag, to a modern 3 season synthetic version (mountain hardware Lamina 20), which is warm enough and comparable, if a little bulkier, to my old Rab 500g down bag, a bag in which I've had more than a few sub zero mountain evenings (summer alpine) to no ill effect. This new sleeping bag stuffs down quite a bit and has proven to be quite the space saver.
The tent is an Akto, not the lightest but better for it.
Obviously kit costs and I realize that some of the kit mentioned above could well be beyond the reach of some, but I'd be interested to hear what others take when they go for a spot of Camp and Carry?
