New national anthem for UK and England

Goatboy

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Jan 31, 2005
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Always thought this was a rousing and pretty song.

[video=youtube;Ydls3iAcs0A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydls3iAcs0A[/video]
 

Kerne

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Billy Bragg: "New England".

As someone who is half Welsh and half Irish I would definitely vote for Jerusalem to be the English National anthem - absolutely cracking song! I'd even sing along lustily with you all - before we knock you out of Euro 2016....:rolleyes:
 

Bigfoot

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As the National Anthem is about the monarch of its constituent parts it is not the English anthem but universal to any that accept her as monarch. But, we should have a national song that can be sung without the cries of racist that accompany flying our national flag.

I like Rose of England "Beyond compare"

God Save the Queen is technically racist against Scots, they just omit the offending verse about sedition and "rebellious Scots to crush" to avoid the hairy northern hordes from invading again :). I have never liked it as a UK anthem for that reason, plus it's a complete dirge.

I don't have a say on what the English anthem should be but I would be astonished if Jerusalem didn't get the nod. For the record I detest the use of Flower of Scotland as a Scottish anthem - it's a folk song, not an anthem and one which celebrates division and war. Time to modern up and do something much more inclusive for all peoples - the UK and each individual nation.
 

John Fenna

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Surely the Scots are a Nation - not a race....just like the Welsh are not technically being "racist" if they refuse to hire English workers.
 
Nov 29, 2004
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"...Surely the Scots are a Nation - not a race..."

Correct. :)

"...For the record I detest the use of Flower of Scotland as a Scottish anthem - it's a folk song, not an anthem and one which celebrates division and war..."

I'd agree with all of that, not sure what we could use in it's place though.

I think Jerusalem is a fine piece, and perhaps a good choice for the English.
 
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CLEM

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Jul 10, 2004
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God Save the Queen is technically racist against Scots, they just omit the offending verse about sedition and "rebellious Scots to crush" to avoid the hairy northern hordes from invading again :). I have never liked it as a UK anthem for that reason, plus it's a complete dirge.

I don't have a say on what the English anthem should be but I would be astonished if Jerusalem didn't get the nod. For the record I detest the use of Flower of Scotland as a Scottish anthem - it's a folk song, not an anthem and one which celebrates division and war. Time to modern up and do something much more inclusive for all peoples - the UK and each individual nation.
I'am English through and through but I love Flower Of Scotland, Men Of Harlech too. I'd be shocked if Jerusalem didn't win out too. Land Of Hope And Glory would be pretty good mind.
 
Nov 29, 2004
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The OP did ask for a 'rock and roll' anthem but folks seem to be suggesting more traditional tunes.

That being the case I offer the INGSOC* anthem from 1984...

[video=youtube;F43DqnMoWi0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F43DqnMoWi0[/video]

:)

*INGSOC = newspeak for 'English Socialism' from Orwell's 1984.
 
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