Identify The Pit Bull

santaman2000

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As the title says; can you pick out the Pit Bull?

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[h=5]Tails of Hope Dog Rescue
[/h][h=5]Some think the dogs are stocky, others say the dogs have a big head and cropped ears. There are over 20 breeds that are commonly misidentified as Pit Bulls.The term pit bull is a generic term used to describe dogs with similar physical characteristics. Usually a "pit bull" is considered one of several breeds including the American Pit Bull Terrier, the American Staffordshire Terrier, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Bull Terrier or any mix thereof. In some parts of the world, the American Bulldog and Dogo Argentino are also classified as a "Pit Bull-type" dog, despite major genetic differences. Any dog that is mixed with a "bully breed" may also be called a "pit bull" including those that are descended from the English Bulldog, French Bulldog, Boston Terrier and Cane Corso.

We have had people come to our adoption events and see a very block head Lab mix and say" OH! That's a pitbull!". We have had Boxers labeled PITBULL mixes. Even puppies as young as three months have had people point to them and say PITBULL!

So as far as we are concerned : " What if it is a bully mix?" So what? All our dogs are so well socialized, in foster homes with families that have other dogs, some have children, others have cats and children and so on. We do not label any dog regardless of breed, every one is different. Truth be known my first dog bite was a Pug! A flat faced dog! Ironically I personally have one. I have also been attacked by an Akita, still have the scars on my torso to show it, but my Akita is great and therefore I know it was THE DOG and NOT the breed that attacked me.

We currently have eight bully mixes in foster homes now, all are sweet, all are great, and sadly all have been labeled by bad press.Come on out to our adoption event this Saturday at Hollywood Feed in Olive Branch MS from 11-3 and get some bully love!

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Skaukraft

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Apr 8, 2012
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Good point Santaman
Here in Norway a few ignorant people managed to convince the governemnt that Amercian Staffordshire Terrier had to be banned because it was "pit bulls".
A ban based on ignorance and fear instead of facts and knowledge.
Any breed can become a "pit bull" if treated wrong. The worst thing I see is people with chihuahuas or similar small breed laughing at their dogs when they are angr/gressive. "Oh, look at the little thing. He is so sweet when he is angy".
In my opinion theres no differenvce between a chihuahua out of control or a bull-breed out of control. An aggressive dog is an agressive dog no matter what breed it is.
 
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Third one down on the left?

The problem isn't so much the dogs as some lowlife owners who encourage them - usually through brutal treatment and great cruelty - to behave in a savage manner.
 

mountainm

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In my opinion theres no differenvce between a chihuahua out of control or a bull-breed out of control. An aggressive dog is an agressive dog no matter what breed it is.

I hear what your saying - but personally I'd rather be up against an aggressive chihuahua than an aggressive pitbull or rotty. Those are dogs bred for jaw strength. I can get rid of the chihuahua with one swift kick.
 

mousey

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Jun 15, 2010
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I think they are all 'pit bulls' as it is a 'class' of dog not a breed.

"Any mixed breed dog may be labelled a "pitbull" if they have the characteristic square shaped head." [form wiki - the font of all knowledge :) ahhahhaaa]

mountainm :-
but personally I'd rather be up against an aggressive chihuahua than an aggressive pitbull or rotty
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I think I'd agree with that.

I have four dogs, pure alsatian, alsatian mixed with collie, pure collie, and an alsatian mixed with malumute. ALL have to potentail to cause great damage if they wished, one of them is a VERY large dog. However they have been brought up in a family unit with young children and various other pets and dominante pack leaders [the missus and me] and as such have been taught how to behave in a human society.

I must say that out of all my pets the most serious damage I've had is from a cat...
 

Dogoak

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Jan 24, 2009
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I wish you all the best with this event Santaman, hope you find some good perspective owners.
 

ex-member BareThrills

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Dec 5, 2011
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I agree the breed has become stigmatised. In the uk they are usually associated with hoodies that buy them to look cool and mean. Personally i dont like them based on looks and i like a dog with a good engine but they deserve a fair crack of the whip. Im a firm believer that the dog is always a product of its environment and training.

Like Mike id rather tackle a rabid chuwahwah handbag dog.
 

Paddytray

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As someone who has raised and bread English pit bull terriers .
Owned collies , staffs , Alsatian , and Heinz 57 dogs I must say all dogs are like humans in my opinion if raised right they are fine .
If treated rough or forced to struggle they snap just like us .
It doesn't matter if they are jack russles , or rotties there is good and bad in in all breeds .
And some dogs are born mean just like some kids .
And they need it taught out of them and shown love .
Being strict but loving is the best method ( firm but fair ).
Pitbulls / staffs . get bad press because they are used by kids who shouldn't be able to own a dog .
And they use them for status and protection because they cant use there fists but love agro .
Don't ban the breed ban the brats from owning them till they are 21
 
Jul 30, 2012
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I've seen caesar "the dog wisperer" put a bighting dog in with his pack that has got 10+ pitbulls in it. Not so much as a snarl when the pitbulls got bit. Definatley maltreatment, as was shown in the uk recently when 4 cooped up rotweilers(not banned) attacked a girl of about 12. If they're always barking, they're unhappy/aggressive not enough pack attention as Caesar would say.

3 one down on the left, very wide mouth
 

Skaukraft

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Apr 8, 2012
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Norway
I hear what your saying - but personally I'd rather be up against an aggressive chihuahua than an aggressive pitbull or rotty. Those are dogs bred for jaw strength. I can get rid of the chihuahua with one swift kick.

Can't argue with that. My point is that it is the same mechanism triggering the agression.
 

ammo

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Sep 7, 2013
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Pit bulls and pit bull types, are great dogs.Sadly most of their owners are terrible. Unfortunately all the attributes that make them one of the very best working dogs, ie a great engine, super strong, very intelligent, eager to please and they will never give up, are the very things that get them in so much trouble, when in the wrong hands.
These dogs are the victims. Maybe a license for hunting or working dogs is needed, but I don't believe in banning dogs. I believe in banning bad owners!
 

mountainm

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Pit bulls and pit bull types, are great dogs.Sadly most of their owners are terrible. Unfortunately all the attributes that make them one of the very best working dogs, ie a great engine, super strong, very intelligent, eager to please and they will never give up, are the very things that get them in so much trouble, when in the wrong hands.
These dogs are the victims. Maybe a license for hunting or working dogs is needed, but I don't believe in banning dogs. I believe in banning bad owners!


It's easier to legislate against the dog/breeder than the owner. Some sort of means testing for potential owners is far more complicated than a simple ban, and therefore a ban is the less expensive and therefore natural choice as it achieves the same ends and ultimately annoys very few people.
 

santaman2000

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It's easier to legislate against the dog/breeder than the owner. Some sort of means testing for potential owners is far more complicated than a simple ban, and therefore a ban is the less expensive and therefore natural choice as it achieves the same ends and ultimately annoys very few people.

Yes if they could get away with a ban here it would likely be passed as well. Some localities have tried but that pesky ADA keeps kicking in.
 

dwardo

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Aug 30, 2006
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I have a staff cross and she is a lovely thing. One statement I dont agree with is that any aggressive dog is just as dangerous as another.
If I get attacked by a little yapping poodle I would imagine my boot up its posterior but be a possible defence. If the dog is a 10 stone pitty or rottie I would fancy my chances less. I say this because there are a few owners near to me that have some very large dogs like the rottweiler who are about 6 stone wet. If that dog fancied taking off I could not see the owner having much say in the matter. This has happened to me twice. Lucky my dog was clever enough to back down and I stayed calm, albeit ready to attempt to dispatch the animal if required.
 

Bullrover

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Jun 23, 2013
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I've owned a few dogs over the years and always have at least one around the place. Most of my dogs have been bull breeds and I've found them to be the best dogs with people and kids, there is a reason why Staffs were called the Nanny dog but all dogs need to be properly socialised, managed and never left alone with children or those unable to handle them.

Pit Bulls are definitely a breed with a long lineage and have had a hand in the make up of a number of more modern breeds that benefited from their qualities. If they were legal in this country I would have another without hesitation. Best of luck to all those who are still helping one of the most misrepresented and misunderstood breeds in history.
 

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