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Tengu

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Who told you such complete and utter nonsense?

If you want to explore the outdoors, you need to know how to get clean water.

Need I tell you how dangerous dirty water is?
 
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Toddy

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Flint doesn't 'dissolve' in water. If it did then flint faced buildings would collapse and they're common enough in parts of a sodden wet UK, and have been since pre-Roman times. It's incredibly enduring. I have excavated flint scrapers that were as razor sharp as they were the day they were lost, and they'd lain in the ground for four or five thousand years.
Flint is often found in chalky areas, and those give 'hard' mineral rich water. It's not the flint that does it though, because that's the sedimentary cryptocrystalline form of quartz. Silicon dioxide....sometimes with inclusions and sometimes formed around a marine mollusc fossil, coral, etc..
The white cortex, the outer layer of chalky type material on a nodule is more porous though, but it's nothing so special as to be worth spending a lot of money on it to purify water. Just buy chalk.....and I have never seen that recommended as a water purifier. It leads to hardening in pipes, kettles, and the like.

Roasted flint is the base source for lime, and that was used for everything from soil management to pottery making, lime mortar and plasters.

 

Frankie22

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Who told you such complete and utter nonsense?

If you want to explore the outdoors, you need to know how to get clean water.

Need I tell you how dangerous dirty water is?
Actually all l was doing was posting something that came up online.

I'm quite aware of the effects of dirty water but thanks for the assumptions
 

Toddy

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On a forum where people routinely spend time out away from tap water, such a topic is both of interest and contentious.
Discussions on how to obtain water, how to purify water, while still trying to travel lightly are fairly common here and on other outdoor forums.
False information, even cut and paste, will be contested.
You did write that you'd taken it from a sales site though, so that's in your favour because the inherent bias is obvious there.
 

crosslandkelly

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This is the above mentioned sales site. Draw your own conclusions.
 

Toddy

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It's funny some of the things that folks have believed purified water, destroyed 'poison', etc.,

I had a huge row with a friend years ago when colloidal silver was suddenly being pushed....and yes, she was not only advocating it and using it but selling it.
Locally there were a few elderly ladies who were 'blue'. The same unhealthy looking grey blue as one sees on the lips of those with failing hearts, but this blue was all over their faces, necks, hands and legs....well those were the only parts a little girl saw. They had ingested too much colloidal silver as teenagers when it was a supposed 'cure-all'. Everything from acne to prevention of TB. Argyria it's called when it builds up in the body.
My friend loudly railed against that, said that it was rubbish and a chemist's fault, and refused to take any responsibility to give a full picture of the stuff she was promoting so loudly.
That I spoke out against it was a fault and we didn't speak for many years. Three rounds of cancer later she now does speak to me, but never of colloidal silver.
Now it's water filtered through activated charcoal....except her activated charcoal comes from a traditional Scandinavian charcoal maker and costs fifty quid a bag. That bag is enough to fill a three foot length of drain pipe she has fastened to her kitchen wall. A jug of water is poured through from the top and caught in another jug at the bottom.....pure rain water of course.
At this rate flint will be the next thing :roll:

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Frankie22

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Who told you such complete and utter nonsense?

If you want to explore the outdoors, you need to know how to get clean water.

Need I tell you how dangerous dirty water is?
Actually all l was doing was posting something that came up online.

I'm quite aware of the effects if dirty water but thanks for the assumptions
 

Frankie22

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I also advocate colloidal silver and make it.
You have some false information there, completely false.
It will close wounds within a couple of days, there are thousands of testimonies regarding it's healing properties.
I could go on but l wont.

However, yes, l was just vaguely curious on that claim about the flint.
There are also Lithuanian sellers on EBay selling flint for that purpose.
I also read a far better spec article on the Flint. Unfortunately, l can't seem to locate it now.
 

Frankie22

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Perhaps your friend with the Colloidal silver simply wasn't up to the job of making it. I have a top drawer generator for purpose.
I use it mainly for wounds..it has healed me of sore throats and such..but l do not consume it as kuch as l use it topically.
 

Frankie22

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It's best to consider all factors before writing any thing off as * certainty.

 

Frankie22

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Your friend was possibly confusing her attempts at colloidal and creating Ionic instead, without much idea.
I certainly wouldn't write off Colloidal.
Here's a link for your consideration.

 

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I favour Unicorns horn for dealing with poisons; but then Im a horn expert and so biased.

Unicorn horn is so rare nowadays. The main problem finding virgins to harvest it.:)
I saw my last unicorn in the 1970s, and havnt seen hide nor hair(or horn) since! ;)
Though Hogwarts seem to have a supply. The last time I tried to run through the wall on platform 51/2, I got a nasty bump on my head, won't be trying that again.:(
 

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I also advocate colloidal silver and make it.
You have some false information there, completely false.
It will close wounds within a couple of days, there are thousands of testimonies regarding it's healing properties.
I could go on but l wont.

However, yes, l was just vaguely curious on that claim about the flint.
There are also Lithuanian sellers on EBay selling flint for that purpose.
I also read a far better spec article on the Flint. Unfortunately, l can't seem to locate it now.
No, I don't have false information.
Pre anti-biotics colloidal silver was a really good thing, but they were well aware of the issues with it.
Nowadays folks promote it claiming every blessed thing for it and refuse to actually do the research not just an internet search.
It needs care.


 
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Nice65

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Flint doesn't 'dissolve' in water. If it did then flint faced buildings would collapse and they're common enough in parts of a sodden wet UK, and have been since pre-Roman times. It's incredibly enduring. I have excavated flint scrapers that were as razor sharp as they were the day they were lost, and they'd lain in the ground for four or five thousand years.
Flint is often found in chalky areas, and those give 'hard' mineral rich water. It's not the flint that does it though, because that's the sedimentary cryptocrystalline form of quartz. Silicon dioxide....sometimes with inclusions and sometimes formed around a marine mollusc fossil, coral, etc..
The white cortex, the outer layer of chalky type material on a nodule is more porous though, but it's nothing so special as to be worth spending a lot of money on it to purify water. Just buy chalk.....and I have never seen that recommended as a water purifier. It leads to hardening in pipes, kettles, and the like.

Roasted flint is the base source for lime, and that was used for everything from soil management to pottery making, lime mortar and plasters.


He’s not the only one with some confusion about flint. I know you have a great deal of knowledge regarding ancient crafts, but lime is not derived from flint, it’s derived from calcium carbonate CaCO3, usually in the form of limestone or chalk. When heated the oxygen molecules break away to form corrosive quicklime. Further heating produces slaked lime for use as mortar and an alkaline to neutralise acidic soils. Here we are on chalk soil and many of the old buildings are constructed of flint and mortar. The chalk quarries still exist, as do some of the kilns for heating it. Flint is only roasted to make it easier to knap, and also as an additive to clay to make harder ceramic (which I just read in your link) Your link is to limestone around Staffordshire, not flint, they are not the same because flint is made of silica which doesn’t contain any calcium at all.

Not aimed at you, but scoffing at someone’s unproven information when false facts are being presented as part of the argument is completely misleading to anyone who reads this thread.
 
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When heated one of the oxygen molecules breaks away to form lime. Heated further and a second oxygen molecule breaks away to form the highly corrosive alkaline compound, quicklime.
Not quite, heating calcium carbonate produces calcium oxide and carbon dioxide, then reacting with water calcium hydroxide is produced. Historically very important reactions.
 

Nice65

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Not quite, heating calcium carbonate produces calcium oxide and carbon dioxide, then reacting with water calcium hydroxide is produced. Historically very important reactions.
Sure, I’ve just edited the post after checking my own facts ;)
 

Frankie22

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Hi, l believe that l mentioned that l have a *Colloidal silver* generator.
I do not create Ionic Silver, which is most likely what you friend was producing, from an inferior Colloidal generator source.

Most likely she also did not establish correct Ppm , or know how to create a superior product, and as a result, the product receives the bad reputation.

Coupled with the possibility that the people that she gave it to, were not directed on its use and consumed far more than necessary.
That is the error from the creator of it, and potentially the customer.

To research, it is wise to look beyond government approval websites that refute it.

The Medical field has multiple positive reports on Colloidal products of all kinds.
Articles featuring published,medical journals are available online.
Not just outlandish, biased reports, which would generalise over the internet, to suit Big Pharma's odious agenda's .

Although, to be balanced, Hospitals, which already use silver in dressings, and such...you will then note that it has a vast efficiency rate in healing.

Once again, for your consideration:


This was one of the shortest and *simplest* examples that l could find.


I am not forcing you to consume it , nor am l peddling my wares.

I will however present some truthful facts on it's qualities, as l have witnessed healing on others, on myself, and on my animals from it's use.
From what l have created, and from a specialist Colloidal that l regularly purchase.


I do not advocate using just any device to create it... Nor, just buying any form of it from somebody who is not knowledgeable of its necessary properties..including anti fungal, which is invaluable ...

You can even kill fungus on any vegetable plants.
I will use it in my polytunnels on my land.
Also, on myself and my animals, including poultry, in place of any , *anti life* medical, antibiotics.

However, it seems your *friend* is at least open minded to alternative and proven options, as choices for Herself.:)
I wouldn't scoff at that, personally, especially in these times.
I wouldn't scoff about a friend publicly either.




Take care.
 

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