Heads Up: New RM "Bushcraft Knife" made by SWC
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Nice buy mate, even though i prefer puukkos in function i would love to have one of those.
are there any changes to the AW version apart from the scales and logo?
are there any changes to the AW version apart from the scales and logo?
Is it just the angle in the pic or do the blade profiles look slightly different? SWC's looks a bit wider, than the AW one?
the handle on the AW appears broader and the choil is more square.
I agree with Mark in that the blade looks slightly broader in the SWC version.
is the wilky any different?
I agree with Mark in that the blade looks slightly broader in the SWC version.
is the wilky any different?
Yes to the handle and choil definitely, as for the WS, that's off getting a new sheath made for it so you'll have to wait for that answer.
I just got my SWC Bushcrafter in the post and it feels a great knife....
The design of the handle is very comfortable....and it comes hair popping sharp...the spine is nicely squared as well and should throw a good shower of sparks from a ferro rod...dimension wise it is vitrually exactly the same as the Woodlore...save for the size of the grips...
The Woodlore has more depth on the grips and fills the hand more but the Bushcraft Knife is equally comfortable in hand and both are well suited for long periods of work.... plenty of control and comfort....
The Woodlore just slightly has an edge which is closer to the handle...they are both very close....but the Woodlore just nudges the SWC for closeness .... ofcourse they both afford a good "fine work" ability without having to choke up on the blade .... which is one of the main advantages with these style of knives and all told the SWC should deliver all the performance anyone could want.
However if I were to consider the asthetics of the knives...and this applies to both...they are a bit "Plain Jane" on looks...the wood on the SWC is heavily "lined" or "grained" and definately reminds you of a church pew or one of the old style school desks...a good nice "hard" wood...you cannot make any finger nail compression marks in the wood no matter how hard you try and press...which is a good sign for longevity and hard use....and is better than you often get with some of the other "prettier" woods ... but for the money you might well think you should get something a little bit "more"...
whilst I am all for "not depleting" natural resources...you rather feel that the savings made by using woods such as these are not really being passed down the line to the buyer...
If you consider that for just slightly more money you can get some great asthetics on knives such as Mick Wardell's damascus Bushcrafter...
You do feel like you are being a bit of a "martyr" to your principals with the "plainness" of these knives... although this is just a cosmetic point and I am sure the SWC knife will perform as well as any other... my Woodlore certainly does...and that is the main thing is'nt it??
Maybe makes you realise though why Ray prefers Antler grips... I know I would too...
The design of the handle is very comfortable....and it comes hair popping sharp...the spine is nicely squared as well and should throw a good shower of sparks from a ferro rod...dimension wise it is vitrually exactly the same as the Woodlore...save for the size of the grips...
The Woodlore has more depth on the grips and fills the hand more but the Bushcraft Knife is equally comfortable in hand and both are well suited for long periods of work.... plenty of control and comfort....
The Woodlore just slightly has an edge which is closer to the handle...they are both very close....but the Woodlore just nudges the SWC for closeness .... ofcourse they both afford a good "fine work" ability without having to choke up on the blade .... which is one of the main advantages with these style of knives and all told the SWC should deliver all the performance anyone could want.
However if I were to consider the asthetics of the knives...and this applies to both...they are a bit "Plain Jane" on looks...the wood on the SWC is heavily "lined" or "grained" and definately reminds you of a church pew or one of the old style school desks...a good nice "hard" wood...you cannot make any finger nail compression marks in the wood no matter how hard you try and press...which is a good sign for longevity and hard use....and is better than you often get with some of the other "prettier" woods ... but for the money you might well think you should get something a little bit "more"...
whilst I am all for "not depleting" natural resources...you rather feel that the savings made by using woods such as these are not really being passed down the line to the buyer...
If you consider that for just slightly more money you can get some great asthetics on knives such as Mick Wardell's damascus Bushcrafter...
You do feel like you are being a bit of a "martyr" to your principals with the "plainness" of these knives... although this is just a cosmetic point and I am sure the SWC knife will perform as well as any other... my Woodlore certainly does...and that is the main thing is'nt it??
Maybe makes you realise though why Ray prefers Antler grips
... I know I would too...
W
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Josh you may do some work in a forge and I`m not questioning the problems encountered when trying to make a forged blade properly.
IMO generally the prices of both forged and stock removal knives can be very similar, until factors like Name, Reputation and unique workmanship enter into the equation.
The point that I am getting at is that you made a comment stating that Forged blades are worth more. A comment that I have to totally disagree with.
i agree, the prices differ quite a bit, but alot more work goes into a forged blade.
and as you said, its the makers reputation that sells the blade, for example, if a newbie to knife making such as myself made a hand forged blade, and put it for sale alongside say a AW stock removed blank, the blank would be worth alot more.
Reputation is a hard thing to aquire in this knife making game, i suppose the best way of earning reputation these days would be to provide great service for a top quality product, a flashy website helps aswell
I withdraw my comment that forged blades are worth more on the whole, what i do mean though is that alot more work goes into making them, the smith is working with the microstructure of the steel aswell as shaping, tiwsting, welding and folding the steel to produce the pattern weld.
ATB
Josh
is the swc going to to be available in micarta and if so i want one.
i just cant bring myself to use my ws micarta come to think of it aint used my bbk either.
or my bearclaw also think i would like a micarta spyderco.
if they do a blade option will have to get one and have it scaled in black linen
i just cant bring myself to use my ws micarta come to think of it aint used my bbk either.
or my bearclaw also think i would like a micarta spyderco.
if they do a blade option will have to get one and have it scaled in black linen
rancid badger
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Well it is a nice knife, shame about the 'branding'. It would have looked much better, without the 'ray mears bushcraft' tag, with just the logo instead.
Mr Mears' management team, could do just as well, with a bit less commercial B.S. and a bit more subtlety imho
Nice to see woodlore finally getting a manufacturer sorted out mind you.
Ultimately; I'd rather have a knife custom made, for that money, particularly as I don't get on with the woodlore anyway.
R.B.
Mr Mears' management team, could do just as well, with a bit less commercial B.S. and a bit more subtlety imho
Nice to see woodlore finally getting a manufacturer sorted out mind you.
Ultimately; I'd rather have a knife custom made, for that money, particularly as I don't get on with the woodlore anyway.
R.B.
It's good to see another alternative to the long wait on the AW version. The branding shouldn't be much of an issue to a user as the blacking will soon fade to the steel beneath and become unobtrusive. To collectors though, the branding is a bonus.
I wish they would release a factory version though. In micarta.
I wish they would release a factory version though. In micarta.
Great write upand you definitely have a better camera than me
Thanks Martin...your pic's are good to show the differences...which is what counts
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Am I correct that the new RM/SWC knife was only on the Woodlore website one day and is already sold out?? I still want one!!
The knife looks very well made, as I would expect and the slight taper to the tang is a nice touch as well.
Maybe someday I will git me one! I am an easy mark for anything sharp and shiny. Cheers!
The knife looks very well made, as I would expect and the slight taper to the tang is a nice touch as well.
Maybe someday I will git me one! I am an easy mark for anything sharp and shiny. Cheers!
The AW Woodlore knives are not all the same..
The earlier ones are thinner in the blade depths and do not have the tapered tang..
The latest ones, the ones that I have seen, are thicker in the blade depth, tapered tang etc..
Other differences are where the sharpened scandi grind begins, again they are different on the AW's I have.
Ive had a few and they are all different, so to compare the AW version to the SWC version you cant really do..
You can only compare a particular AW to a particular SWC..
The two SWC that arrived today are not identical, there are differences, and there should be, as they are hand made and therefore cannot possibly be all the same..
The earlier ones are thinner in the blade depths and do not have the tapered tang..
The latest ones, the ones that I have seen, are thicker in the blade depth, tapered tang etc..
Other differences are where the sharpened scandi grind begins, again they are different on the AW's I have.
Ive had a few and they are all different, so to compare the AW version to the SWC version you cant really do..
You can only compare a particular AW to a particular SWC..
The two SWC that arrived today are not identical, there are differences, and there should be, as they are hand made and therefore cannot possibly be all the same..
You're right. I don't know anything about your experience. I apologise.
I meant full tang scandi production knives. To my knowledge, there's the enzo trappers aaaaand that's about it.
Not everyone can afford the time or cost for a custom knife.
Also, I don't feel that spyderco has "cashed in" on the bushcraft scene. To my knowledge, no bushcraft schools or custom makers are providing free services, or doing it just for the love of the job.
As regards the exorbitant prices on the spyderco in the UK, why not buy from the states?
Thankyou to everyone who posted pics of the new SWC knives. They look great.
Is the new SWC completely Scandi ground, or actually very slightly hollow ground as the later AWs are?
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