Heads Up: New RM "Bushcraft Knife" made by SWC

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waldorf

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I agree, i do a bit of work in a forge and theres alot more that goes into a forged blade than cutting it out of stock steel, no difference in function, but a difference.
its very complex forging a blade, the folding, the flux, keeping the heat correct, beating the steel correctly, keeping the forge going and the selection of differnt specialist tools.

its a very different game, no wonder forged blades are worth more.

ATB
Josh

Sorry Josh but where does the information to make that quote come from?
The debate of Forged V stock removal knives performance has raged since knives first came about. But regarding the value of a knife, yes you can pay alot for a forged blade, but you can pay as much if not more for a stock removal blade. Ultimately the price will be determined by who made the knife.
 
I'm tired of the spyderco bashing. It's a woodlore clone? How? different stock thickness, different blade profile, different handle shape, different pins. The only things they have in common are that both have a scandi grind and a full tang.
And since the market was crying out for a full tang scandi, spyderco produced one. How dare they research and produce a model to fill a niche! The nerve!

Would this be a woodlore clone if it was a stick tang? Or if it was a full tang flat grind?

Secondly, many people who have handled the knife love the handle. People whom I have reason to believe have real experience other than whittling in the back yard.

I can pick up a Spyderco for around $200 Australian. I've ordered a SWC custom and it's going to cost around $400. Not quite the same price range is it?



LOL. Calm down, calm down. You don't really know what experience other people have and what they have done in the past. They may actually know what they are talking about. Everyone whittles in the back yard. Even Ray Mears. He told me so himself.
 

Klenchblaize

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So a "group buy" is out of the question then?:deadhorse:

Perhaps Woodlore should do a deal with Spyderco or CRKT thus reverting to something approaching the availability of the Wilkinson Sword version before they went into receivership? Can only be a matter of time!

Cheers
 

Tony

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Guys, for some reason this thread is on the edge of going down hill, please remember that we're dealing with opinions not so much people stating facts.

I think it's great that SWC is getting to do the Woodlores, people are always going to want them, I also think it's great that Spyderco brought out a knife, especially as we had such a hand in it. What i don't get is why some of you get so wound up over the knives, there's been some daft things said that show impulsive rather than thoughtful comments, they're not offensive though, but people act like they are.

Some will like one, some will like the other and some will like both :D
 
Guys, for some reason this thread is on the edge of going down hill, please remember that we're dealing with opinions not so much people stating facts.

I think it's great that SWC is getting to do the Woodlores, people are always going to want them, I also think it's great that Spyderco brought out a knife, especially as we had such a hand in it. What i don't get is why some of you get so wound up over the knives, there's been some daft things said that show impulsive rather than thoughtful comments, they're not offensive though, but people act like they are.

Some will like one, some will like the other and some will like both :D

That's very true Tony. I'm not fussed on either one.
 

HillBill

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I'm tired of the spyderco bashing. It's a woodlore clone? How? different stock thickness, different blade profile, different handle shape, different pins. The only things they have in common are that both have a scandi grind and a full tang.
And since the market was crying out for a full tang scandi, spyderco produced one. How dare they research and produce a model to fill a niche! The nerve!

Would this be a woodlore clone if it was a stick tang? Or if it was a full tang flat grind?

Secondly, many people who have handled the knife love the handle. People whom I have reason to believe have real experience other than whittling in the back yard.

I can pick up a Spyderco for around $200 Australian. I've ordered a SWC custom and it's going to cost around $400. Not quite the same price range is it?

Move to the UK and buy one mate and yes they are the same price range.
 

Siberianfury

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Sorry Josh but where does the information to make that quote come from?
The debate of Forged V stock removal knives performance has raged since knives first came about. But regarding the value of a knife, yes you can pay alot for a forged blade, but you can pay as much if not more for a stock removal blade. Ultimately the price will be determined by who made the knife.

i know Because i do some work in a forge producing custom blades, i know the prices they are sold for and how much work is put into making them (alot compared to stock removal), the Statement comes from first hand experience rather than a recourse.

the price will be determined by what the smith wants for it, through out the ages different smiths claimed "super sharp blades" and "secret techniques", these where for nothing other than marketing, when in reality its possible to produce 10 hand forged laminated puukko blades in a day.

stock removal blades take less work to produce, yet produce high qualty results.
the quality of a forged blade is detremined by the smith.

ATB
Josh
 
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HillBill

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I'll make you 3 knives for that price


No thanks, thats more than an AW woodlore for a production run, machine made knife from 01, the materials will not cost more than £15 in a run that size. Probably less than a tenner.
 

Mountainwalker

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save yourself a small fortune and order one from the US. I ordered one from spydieguys and it arrived in Australia 8 days latter. Only cost 115 pounds approx.
 

Siberianfury

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£280
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I'll make you 3 knives for that price


No thanks, thats more than an AW woodlore for a production run, machine made knife from 01, the materials will not cost more than £15 in a run that size. Probably less than a tenner.


IMO theres an odvious choice between he two, the RM, not only do i prefer the look of it (higher grinds would be nice though) it will increase in value and become an investment.

Why is the spyderco so bloody expensive, it should be selling at around £80, then it would fly off the shelves.
 
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lostplanet

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The more I look at the SpyBu I like it, delivered from States roughly £125 Not including the dreaded Brown, mmm........
 

PeterHW

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There is something quite wrong here on the price difference....usually the worst you see is the dollar price in the States being replaced for sterling....typical on some of the well known sites and that gives a sizeable mark up even allowing for import duty...for this knife though the dollar price has been massively increased????
 

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