Hammock isolation.

[rik_uk3]

Hammocks are not sociable either, pitch your tent, you and your chums are nice and warm, sit there playing cards, talking Bo*****ks etc then go to sleep. If your in hammocks what you going to do, break our the two way radios? lol. Then there is the call of nature issue (and I know more than one here that has missaimed and flooded their hammock). Middle of winter, fancy a fresh brew and a bite to eat in the middle of the night? No problem in a tent, light the stove and away you go, in a hammock its a flask and a bag of crisps.

Comfort? Hammocks should be great but don't work for me and my bad back although the idea of gently rocking back and forth in my hammock on a tropical beach while sipping a cocktail and being fanned by a dusky maiden does have a romantic appeal Hanging yourself in mid air in mid winter does not (even with the dusky maiden).

But, hats off to all of you who are prepared to cart all this gear and go through the faffing about of setting it all up, if I ever make it to a meet I'll set up my tent, have a brew and watch the faffing

 

[tim_n]

Hammocks are not sociable either, pitch your tent, you and your chums are nice and warm, sit there playing cards, talking Bo*****ks etc then go to sleep. If your in hammocks what you going to do, break our the two way radios? lol. Then there is the call of nature issue (and I know more than one here that has missaimed and flooded their hammock). Middle of winter, fancy a fresh brew and a bite to eat in the middle of the night? No problem in a tent, light the stove and away you go, in a hammock its a flask and a bag of crisps.

Comfort? Hammocks should be great but don't work for me and my bad back although the idea of gently rocking back and forth in my hammock on a tropical beach while sipping a cocktail and being fanned by a dusky maiden does have a romantic appeal Hanging yourself in mid air in mid winter does not (even with the dusky maiden).

But, hats off to all of you who are prepared to cart all this gear and go through the faffing about of setting it all up, if I ever make it to a meet I'll set up my tent, have a brew and watch the faffing

Odd, I've never wanted to chat to anyone once I've gone off to bed, neither decided to get up at 3am to make a brew. Plus the guy who goes camping with me needs a large exclusion zone due to snoring.

As for gear to setup, my pack is so small and the hammock is very quick. Granted it takes longer to find the right trees!

Call of nature granted is an issue, but in a tent you have to climb out just the same!

 

[BigMonster]

Tents are very sociable, until someone farts... Brew is as easy as reaching with one hand and lighting a stove beneath you while still in the sleeping bag. Call of nature have the same implications in a tent. And I wouldnt start the comfort debate, unless you spend silly money on 10cm thick exped mat hammock is unbeatable.
Its obvious you are looking down on hammocs without trying one. Stop it.

Thankd pda1, some good info there.

 

[adestu]

Best nights sleep ever I've had is in a hammock . I use going to invest in a decent under blanket.

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[mountainm]

My Snugpak Cocoon serves me well hammocking but in winter I'd use a sleeping bag inside it too. Looking forward to trying out my pocket duo tent in the woods though - easier to pitch than a hammock, more room etc.

I like both options.

 

[rik_uk3]

Tents are very sociable, until someone farts... Brew is as easy as reaching with one hand and lighting a stove beneath you while still in the sleeping bag. Call of nature have the same implications in a tent. And I wouldnt start the comfort debate, unless you spend silly money on 10cm thick exped mat hammock is unbeatable.
Its obvious you are looking down on hammocs without trying one. Stop it.

Thankd pda1, some good info there.

Cot bed with a cell mat on top is hard to beat, might try a lilo on top next trip. I have tried hammocks and as I said they don't suit my back (problems), your the one looking down on tent users I feel. Stop it lol.

 

[raskusdrotti]

But, hats off to all of you who are prepared to cart all this gear and go through the faffing about of setting it all up, if I ever make it to a meet I'll set up my tent, have a brew and watch the faffing

Cot bed with a cell mat on top is hard to beat, might try a lilo on top next trip. I have tried hammocks and as I said they don't suit my back (problems), your the one looking down on tent users I feel. Stop it lol.

When I've set up my hammock and tarp and adjusted my quilt in less than 5 minutes, I will be the one chillaxing whilst watching you putting up your tent, blowing up your lilo and putting together your cot... all of which weighs more than my set up.

oh, and if I hang it high enough I will literally be looking down on you...

Seriously though, it's the other way around for me - I find it difficult to sleep on the floor and get a good night's sleep so I must be doing something wrong.

 

[BigMonster]

I dont dismiss tents like you dismiss hammocks, actually I happily slept in a tent two weeks ago to get some privacy with my girlfriend. Anyway the topic is about keeping your butt warm in a hammock, not what is better.

 

[raskusdrotti]

I dont dismiss tents like you dismiss hammocks, actually I happily slept in a tent two weeks ago to get some privacy with my girlfriend. Anyway the topic is about keeping your butt warm in a hammock, not what is better.

I have tried CCF mats, self inflating mats and the only thing that really works for me is an underblanket. They take a bit of experimenting to get right, but once you do, they are the lightest, most effective and comfortable option IMHO.

HYOH

 

[copper_head]

I know you don't seem to keen on UQ's Bigmonster but if you fancy trying one without breaking the bank here's the tutorial I used to make one. Cost me less than £25 and an hours work.

And in action, weighs in at around 1.2kg so not too heavy. Not a patch on a proper down one, but nor is the price

 

[BigMonster]

That was my plan B, recycling my old rectangular sleeping bag. Chears

 

[dwardo]

The other problem might be your hammock. The DD is pretty close fitting compared to ones like the NOMAD XXL which we both have.
My mate tried the DD and found it way too small and tight which just adds to insulation compression issues.

 

[BigMonster]

Oh dont get me wrong. At the moment Im ok and very comfy in my DD travel hammock with just a ccf roll mat and my sleeping bag. So far tested down to +7 with plenty of margin left. I'm just thinking how to deal with temperatures around and below 0.

 

[Lister]

I know you don't seem to keen on UQ's Bigmonster but if you fancy trying one without breaking the bank here's the tutorial I used to make one. Cost me less than £25 and an hours work.

And in action, weighs in at around 1.2kg so not too heavy. Not a patch on a proper down one, but nor is the price

What size have you had it packed down to? you've got me considering one now

 

[copper_head]

What size have you had it packed down to? you've got me considering one now

Works well for me mate

Here it is in the stuff sack the poncho liner came in. It could definitely be compressed a fair bit, but tbh I just fold it up and put in the bottom of my pack. It doesn't take up much room.

 

[rik_uk3]

I dont dismiss tents like you dismiss hammocks, actually I happily slept in a tent two weeks ago to get some privacy with my girlfriend. Anyway the topic is about keeping your butt warm in a hammock, not what is better.

Your in Pedant mode, turn it off

I've not dismissed hammocks, I've said they are not for me and compared to pitching my Golite or even Juno 800 are a faff.

Has anyone tried

and

Only joking.

 

[copper_head]

Hehe, Im pretty sure Gray has something along those lines

 

[Lister]

Your in Pedant mode, turn it off

I've not dismissed hammocks, I've said they are not for me and compared to pitching my Golite or even Juno 800 are a faff.

Has anyone tried

and

Only joking.

* You're

...sorry, couldn't help it

 

[DaveBromley]

I have an underquilt made from a cheap sleeping bag and wouldnt trade it for anything (except maybe a wider one lol) i did use a roll matt with success in varying degrees, i move a bit in my sleep so found getting to just the right spot a bit of a faff and then staying there almost impossible!

With the underquilt i just jump in wriggle until comfy and am out like a light! AND i dont need to worry about rolling off it in the night.

In my opinion the bulk is worth the comfort!

Oh and i've had it down to -7 a couple of xmas' ago with no ill effects!

Dave

 

[Swallow]

Some more info here

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88745