Estonia Kit List - Comments Please

[ex-member BareThrills]

Ida-Viru county. Around 60km west from Russian border.

Ah i see. Bear Central then . Even where they are common ive heard that marked trees are usually the only thing you will see. I have found 4 cases of bear attacks in the last year or so though. None resulted in death but one farmer had his leg badly mauled.

Still we will need to be careful when on the eastern side and not just bears, Elk/Moose are a nightmare when they have calfs with them.

 

[stafass]

True, hogs with their little ones are extremely dangerous too.

 

[jacko1066]

True, hogs with their little ones are extremely dangerous too.

Mmmm fresh bacon......

 

[stafass]

As far as I know, it is against the law to set up traps and snares or use any kind of bows or sling shots for hunting. So, unless you are in survival or self defense situation or having a write to hunt with a gun, it would be your bacon

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

As far as I know, it is against the law to set up traps and snares or use any kind of bows or sling shots for hunting. So, unless you are in survival or self defense situation or having a write to hunt with a gun, it would be your bacon

dont worry, the only trap we will be setting is putting Steve in his hammock and smearing him with honey

 

[stafass]

Have fun

 

[jacko1066]

You have a pm Paul


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[birchwood]

Does anyone have any tips they can give me for transporting the rucksack in the plane hold?
I was planning on putting my 70litre pack inside a massive footy hold all iv got. Will this work?
I seem to remember reading somewhere covering your pack in gaffa tape and stuff but I would rather not do that tbh.
Cheers
Steve


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Having had one rucksack nearly ruined by the luggage handlers, side pocket ripped and straps pulled off. ( they will not pick things up by the proper handles ,just whatever is nearest) Also if there is a blockage on the luggage roundabout the belt keeps running under your rucksack and scuffs it.
So I made a travel sack for mine. It is a bag made of sailbag nylon,light but strong, with webbing straps to cinch it up and handles on all sides.Just roll it up and stuff it inside your pack when you get there.

 

[Andy BB]

Baggage handlers! Was down at Raleigh-Durham airport a day or so ago, handing in my damaged suitcase to be sent for repair (yup - baggage handlers again..). One of the lines was shut down. It turned out that the baggage handlers had put a dog - in a travel cage - on the conveyor belts, and it had gone ballistic!

 

[Teepee]

Originally Posted by jacko1066 Does anyone have any tips they can give me for transporting the rucksack in the plane hold?
I was planning on putting my 70litre pack inside a massive footy hold all iv got. Will this work?
I seem to remember reading somewhere covering your pack in gaffa tape and stuff but I would rather not do that tbh.
Cheers
Steve

My Sabre will probably be going inside its rain cover. I wrap all the plastic clips in gaffer tape, tape the straps to the bag, then put the rain cover over (tied on too) so only the carry straps stick out. I'll take the hip belt off too and put that inside.

If there is any spare weight, I may chuck it inside a DIY Pertex sack to save the rain cover.

If I take my lightweight pack instead, that will go with me in the cabin so I can mollycoddle it and all the kit will go in the hold in a duffle bag. I've got a Brit army deployment bag which is much lighter than the 4.5kg sabre and at £12, I'm not bothered about it getting ripped.

Don't forget, a 70l pack will still be able to go in the cabin as long as its not stuffed with kit-if it'll squash in the box they have by the check in desk, its good to go and you can use the footie duffle as hold baggage on its own.

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

I'm just gonna stick the rain cover on and tape it

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[Shewie]

I've still got that PacSafe if anyone wants to borrow it.

 

[jacko1066]

I'm just gonna stick the rain cover on and tape it

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Are you saying what I think your saying mate? wow!!

 

[cbr6fs]

It's not always the baggage handlers, if there are loose straps then your bag is likely to get caught up somewhere within the conveyor system.

This can cause the flight to leave without the bag if it's well and truly trapped, tears and rips or absolute demolishment.
I've seen sturdy plastic cases pretty much explode when trapped between transportation trays and guardrails.

Depending on the flight and airport your bag is very rarely in human contact, unless it goes through extra security checks it'll probably only be handled twice after check-in till it's loaded, the same at the other end.

 

[Teepee]

I've still got that PacSafe if anyone wants to borrow it.

Noted, thanks dude

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

Thought id tidy my list as ive added some stuff and taken away other bits

Item Name weight

Bergen Verizon Wolverine Monolith 70 + 2 10l Rocket Pouches 3050 Dry Bag Main 98 Dry Bag Sleeping Bag 55 Shelter Golit Shangrala 5 Outer Only + Pole 1200 Sleep System Jerven Thermo king 1900 Western Mountaineering Megalite Down Bag 710 Exped UL Down mat 7LW 600 Helsport Bivvy Shoes 450 Stove Element 2.2 Ti Wood Burning Stove 141 Pots Pans Brew Snowpeak 1.4l Ti Pot 210 Alpkit 750 Mug 110 Ti Spork 20 Pot Scourer sponge 10 Admin DPM Wash Bag 80 Lifeventure Soap 125 Toothbrush & Paste 100 Microfiber Cloth x 2 50 Microfiber Towel 200 Ortlieb Shower Attachment 10 Foot powder 150 Ipood Trowel 100 Mirror 22 Tick Tweezer 10 Bog Roll 50 Wipes 100 FAK 200 Possibles Bag Sea to Summit silnylon bag 112g Contents petzle elite 26 Exotac Nanostriker 18 Quantum DD Torch 18 Small Alox SAK 16 Tinder Card 100 Lummi Raw Torch & Battery 40 Bic Lighters X 4 56 Ranger Bands 5 10000 mah usb charge pack 125 Spare Coin Cells for Lights 50 ibutton Thermometer 10 Micro Lithium Charger 10 Phone 170 Alpkit Padded Cell phone case 10 Mora 110 Folding Duluth Saw 438 Double Stuuf Sharpener 98 Wallet, Tickets, Cash, Card, Docs 200 Uco and 3 candles 314 Compass 40 Map 150 Water & Treatment 10 litre Ortleib water bladder 125 Thirst Aid bag 211 Millbank 80 Sea to Summit Ultra Sil Kitchen Sink 10L 49 Food Buy on Arrival - Allow 3kg 3000 Clothes - Worn Beanie Gloves - Hestra Czone Pickup Merino wool long johns and Base Buffalo 6 Shirt Ventile Trousers Woolpower Socks Boots - Scarpas In Pack Arktis waterproof Smock. Crocs Woolpower Socks X2 Spare Underwear x2 Spare Base Layer merino buff Spare Trousers Craghoppers outfit for return flight T shirt & Craghoppers Circa 18000

 

[jacko1066]

These bivi boots Paul, are they simply for wearing in your pit or can you walk around camp with them?
Just wondering if a thick pair of wool socks would do the same thing?


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[ex-member BareThrills]

They are designed for use in the tent in snowy conditions. think sleeping bag for your feet with a totes toasties style reinforced sole. Ideal to kip in but you can also wander out to water a tree in the dry or in snow. no good in wet though. much warmer than wool socks as they are down filled so will trap more air.

edit, they are listed as water resistant but to be honest you wouldnt want to get back in your bag if they were wet.

http://www.tamarackoutdoors.co.uk/PBSCProduct.asp?ItmID=9152371

 

[jacko1066]

So do you think it's worth ditching them and saving nearly half a kilo in favour of a pair of thick wool socks mate??

Plus if your gonna have some titanium loveliness in the form of a wood stove do you need them??


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[ex-member BareThrills]

Very much depends on the weather forecast mate. If its cold they go but if its looking tropical ill ditch them. Cant put a price on warm feet