Estonia Kit List - Comments Please

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Teepee

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Jan 15, 2010
4,115
5
Northamptonshire
Might be an idea to stick my kit list down too;


Shelter;
Winter 3.2x 3 m DIY tarp with doors.
Polyprop 5x4 tarp

Sleep;
Pertex double layer DIY hammock w. whoopies, hooks and straps
Winter down DIY underquilt
Winter down DIY top quilt
Pertex weather sock
Polycryro Vapour Barrier

Carry;
Sabre 130
Rubble sack dry bags and food bag clips
35-45 l climbing pack for cabin

Cooking;
Evernew 900 ti billy
£Stretcher DIY Hobo stove
Evernew ti cup
Cat stove
Source 3l bladder plus Aquaguard purifier
Thermos flask
1l Nalgene

Sharps;
Mora Tri-flex
500g Hatchet
DIY saw
DC4
Spyderco slipit
Mora double sided spoon knife

Clothes;

Aldi thin merino underwear
Aldi trekkiing socks-various
Mountain Hardwear grid mid layer
Cashmere sweater
Lands End Down jacket
Paramo Quito/Aspira waterpoof
Keela Munro salopetts
Fleece balaclava
Fur lined bomber hat
Leather ski mitts/guantlets
Liner gloves
Klattermusen Gere trews
Tilley T4
Sunglasses
Meindl Soldens with spare liners and modded reflective insoles
Kahtoola Microspikes
Spare gruds

Bits;
Fak
Fox trench lighter
Imco slimline
Peanut lighter
Small bottle for petrol
Talc
Leki Thermolite poles
Dried babywipes
Zebralight H51
Rolson led headlamp as spare
GPS
Phone
Compass
Map
Spare cord (all sorts)
Candles



Depending on temps, a shovel and safety ice spikes and fishing kit.
 

jacko1066

Native
May 22, 2011
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No I am depressed lol!!!
My kit list will be up once the fat man dressed in red has been down my chimney and left me lots of lovely presents that I will be taking to Estonia lol


Leave only footprints take only memories
 

ex-member BareThrills

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Dec 5, 2011
4,461
3
United Kingdom
Might be an idea to stick my kit list down too;


Shelter;
Winter 3.2x 3 m DIY tarp with doors.
Polyprop 5x4 tarp

Sleep;
Pertex double layer DIY hammock w. whoopies, hooks and straps
Winter down DIY underquilt
Winter down DIY top quilt
Pertex weather sock
Polycryro Vapour Barrier

Carry;
Sabre 130
Rubble sack dry bags and food bag clips
35-45 l climbing pack for cabin

Cooking;
Evernew 900 ti billy
£Stretcher DIY Hobo stove
Evernew ti cup
Cat stove
Source 3l bladder plus Aquaguard purifier
Thermos flask
1l Nalgene

Sharps;
Mora Tri-flex
500g Hatchet
DIY saw
DC4
Spyderco slipit
Mora double sided spoon knife

Clothes;

Aldi thin merino underwear
Aldi trekkiing socks-various
Mountain Hardwear grid mid layer
Cashmere sweater
Lands End Down jacket
Paramo Quito/Aspira waterpoof
Keela Munro salopetts
Fleece balaclava
Fur lined bomber hat
Leather ski mitts/guantlets
Liner gloves
Klattermusen Gere trews
Tilley T4
Sunglasses
Meindl Soldens with spare liners and modded reflective insoles
Kahtoola Microspikes
Spare gruds

Bits;
Fak
Fox trench lighter
Imco slimline
Peanut lighter
Small bottle for petrol
Talc
Leki Thermolite poles
Dried babywipes
Zebralight H51
Rolson led headlamp as spare
GPS
Phone
Compass
Map
Spare cord (all sorts)
Candles



Depending on temps, a shovel and safety ice spikes and fishing kit.

Nice list mate. I really hope we need a shovel and snow shoes. I'll probably add fishing gear too. Got a nice little 5 section take down fly / spin rod which will fit in my pack. I need to think about my carry on too. Right now im considering a bigger pack as my 70 plus rockets is just a tad too small.
 

ex-member BareThrills

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Dec 5, 2011
4,461
3
United Kingdom
No I am depressed lol!!!
My kit list will be up once the fat man dressed in red has been down my chimney and left me lots of lovely presents that I will be taking to Estonia lol


Leave only footprints take only memories

Mate im not wearing Red and im not going anywhere near your chimney. I keep telling you i need to blend :D:D
 

Teepee

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Jan 15, 2010
4,115
5
Northamptonshire
Nice list mate. I really hope we need a shovel and snow shoes. I'll probably add fishing gear too. Got a nice little 5 section take down fly / spin rod which will fit in my pack. I need to think about my carry on too. Right now im considering a bigger pack as my 70 plus rockets is just a tad too small.

I'm going with the bigger pack to make everything a little easier. The 45 will just do for day walks-I may swap this to my UL 73l pack if it looks a bit crammed. This will squash down into a small pocket once its done its job on the plane.
I'm expecting the water to be frozen, all well need for it is some ice fishing jigs and line-maybe a ice hole pop-up indicator rig to be posh. I'll carve a fishing rod there I reckon. :)

Looking forward to seeing what your good wife has got you Steve, I wouldn't be surprised if you told me she'd gift wrapped Ronnie Sunshines entire shop and left it under the tree.
 

ex-member BareThrills

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Dec 5, 2011
4,461
3
United Kingdom
I'm expecting the water to be frozen, all well need for it is some ice fishing jigs and line-maybe a ice hole pop-up indicator rig to be posh. I'll carve a fishing rod there I reckon. :)

See id not considered that. I sort of assumed the Rivers would be thawed. Maybe ill leave my rob home lol
 

jacko1066

Native
May 22, 2011
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I'm going with the bigger pack to make everything a little easier. The 45 will just do for day walks-I may swap this to my UL 73l pack if it looks a bit crammed. This will squash down into a small pocket once its done its job on the plane.
I'm expecting the water to be frozen, all well need for it is some ice fishing jigs and line-maybe a ice hole pop-up indicator rig to be posh. I'll carve a fishing rod there I reckon. :)

Looking forward to seeing what your good wife has got you Steve, I wouldn't be surprised if you told me she'd gift wrapped Ronnie Sunshines entire shop and left it under the tree.

Ronnie sunshine, hopefully not!!!
Dd hammocks, now your talking lol


Leave only footprints take only memories
 

jacko1066

Native
May 22, 2011
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I got my hammock, tarp, under blanket and cook pot for Xmas chaps so I can now start to weigh things and get my kit list sorted out.
All that's left to get is a sleeping bag or top quilt.
Still not sure whether to go for snugpak elite 4 or 5.
The 5 weighs about 200gms more but is a 5 season bag so gotta figure out if the extra weight is worth it or not.
Anyone any experience or both?
Have spent a couple of nights in a elite 4 but not sure how cold it got. Either way I was toasty!!
 

Shewie

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Dec 15, 2005
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I got my hammock, tarp, under blanket and cook pot for Xmas chaps so I can now start to weigh things and get my kit list sorted out.
All that's left to get is a sleeping bag or top quilt.
Still not sure whether to go for snugpak elite 4 or 5.
The 5 weighs about 200gms more but is a 5 season bag so gotta figure out if the extra weight is worth it or not.
Anyone any experience or both?
Have spent a couple of nights in a elite 4 but not sure how cold it got. Either way I was toasty!!

What sort of temps can you expect over there Steve? I've used the Snugpak UB and Elite 4 down to -11 with no probs
 

jacko1066

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May 22, 2011
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What sort of temps can you expect over there Steve? I've used the Snugpak UB and Elite 4 down to -11 with no probs

That's a tough one tbh!!
According to locals it can be as low as minus 15 or as high as plus 15.

The plan is gonna be to obviously use the snugpak under quilt an then I'm gonna buy a cheap ccf Matt to use in between the layers on the hammock if I find the under quilt not Working.

Do you think that will work rich?
 

Shewie

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Dec 15, 2005
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That's a tough one tbh!!
According to locals it can be as low as minus 15 or as high as plus 15.

The plan is gonna be to obviously use the snugpak under quilt an then I'm gonna buy a cheap ccf Matt to use in between the layers on the hammock if I find the under quilt not Working.

Do you think that will work rich?

Not sure mate, I'd say it'll probably negate the UB from insulating you. I've never tried it to be honest, it's either been one or the other. I do use a small 18x18" piece of Reflectix under my butt if it's really cold.

Make yourself a basic weathershield to hang under the UB and that'll stop a lot of the draughts cutting through, retain more heat and prevent wind blown rain from getting in your UB.

Pete's dabbled a bit more than me, I switched from a 3/4 Thermarest to the Snugpak, and then went to down and haven't looked back. Some systems work better than others but I haven't tinkered too much with my setup.
 

jacko1066

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May 22, 2011
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Not sure mate, I'd say it'll probably negate the UB from insulating you. I've never tried it to be honest, it's either been one or the other. I do use a small 18x18" piece of Reflectix under my butt if it's really cold.

Make yourself a basic weathershield to hang under the UB and that'll stop a lot of the draughts cutting through, retain more heat and prevent wind blown rain from getting in your UB.

Pete's dabbled a bit more than me, I switched from a 3/4 Thermarest to the Snugpak, and then went to down and haven't looked back. Some systems work better than others but I haven't tinkered too much with my setup.

I see what your saying about it stopping the uq from working.
Tbh I assumed it would be the same as layering up with clothes, the more you have the Warmer you will be.

I'm also taking my synmat 7, and that's rated down very cold so I guess I could always slip that between the layers?
Although there won't be any protection around my shoulders!!

I'm off on a cold weather bushcraft course at the end of jan so am hoping to get a bit of an idea in this country in winter months. Ha a bit of a steal at £135 for a full weekend specialising on cold wether skills so should help me out.

The guy who is soon it is called Leon Durban and he is a hanger himself so he is gonna go over some stuff with me too
 

Scots_Charles_River

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Dec 12, 2006
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I would suggest another midlayer, in case you get soaked.

Also, another pair of non-waterproof gloves. For in case the others get wet and while you are drying them out you can wear the spare gloves.

Also, in wet snow or windy snow, orange tinted goggles make a huge difference, better than shades.
 
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