dd hammocks
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i was in the garden yesterday testing the hammock out with the kids.........almost had a bit of a fight who was next ....but the wife told me to let the kids have a go in 
What a situation! Did I mention I have mine!? 
Down the woods tomorrow for a trial run if there's a break in the relentless wet. Don't fancy learning the ropes in a downpour.
I need some advice though, especially with the tarp. It has no ridgeline loops like my basha so is the rope supposed to run under the fly? Also, mine has black bits of tough, plasticky material sewn in with splits in the material, any idea what these are for? My best guess is this is the point at which the ridge line is supposed to enter, run underneath the tarp and exit out the other end. In which case, it's going to be tricky to tighten the fly.
Otherwise, the tarp can only be rigged diamond stylee?
As for the double layer, I'm seeing the problem that a thermarest may pose and there being no velcro to seal the mouth. As my hand stitching is less than neat, I'm thinking of using a loop and toggle affair at four points, my reasoning being it less surface area to stitch and can be replaced when worn quicker than unpicking the stitching on a length of velcro. Does this sound ok?
I need some advice though, especially with the tarp. It has no ridgeline loops like my basha so is the rope supposed to run under the fly? Also, mine has black bits of tough, plasticky material sewn in with splits in the material, any idea what these are for? My best guess is this is the point at which the ridge line is supposed to enter, run underneath the tarp and exit out the other end. In which case, it's going to be tricky to tighten the fly.
Otherwise, the tarp can only be rigged diamond stylee?
As for the double layer, I'm seeing the problem that a thermarest may pose and there being no velcro to seal the mouth. As my hand stitching is less than neat, I'm thinking of using a loop and toggle affair at four points, my reasoning being it less surface area to stitch and can be replaced when worn quicker than unpicking the stitching on a length of velcro. Does this sound ok?
Neighbour got back home, so I have my stuff now (also included a frost crook knife I ordered..) 
Unpacked it to see if I could repack it successfully, but ran out of room to have a proper look - will probably have to wait until the weekend, when I'm hoping to give it a trial run (even if not actually sleep out in it..)
The tarp feels a lot heavier compared to the hammock than I thought it would, which I guess bodes well for it's toughness..
Unpacked it to see if I could repack it successfully, but ran out of room to have a proper look - will probably have to wait until the weekend, when I'm hoping to give it a trial run (even if not actually sleep out in it..)
The tarp feels a lot heavier compared to the hammock than I thought it would, which I guess bodes well for it's toughness..
Don't know if it's of help but when I set mine up on Saturday, I ran the ridge line between two trees, then draped the tarp over it. I then tied two prussics to those black attachment points, then to the ridgeline and pulled then tight to make the tarp taut. This done I tied off the corners to nearby trees.
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2754
I think I'll get some mini-crabs and put them through the black split webbing for convenience.
Thanks Andy, do they seem strong enough?
To me it seems a little bit strange to not have loops there also and one in the middle, it would make the tarp much more versatile I think, the material looks quality, I'm just not convinced about the black slit things. I might stitch loops there instead perhaps.
EDIT- A simple loop formed from 10mm paracord, with the centre removed can be threaded through the slit. The large knot formed won't pass through the slit and the ridgline should be able to run above the tarp (should you wish) or below as well as enabling the short, tarp tensioning prussic lengths to be fixed to the 'sacrificial' paracord loops, rather than the tough black material.
This could be improved by using a wide toggle to help spread the load, rather than the bunched knot.
To me it seems a little bit strange to not have loops there also and one in the middle, it would make the tarp much more versatile I think, the material looks quality, I'm just not convinced about the black slit things. I might stitch loops there instead perhaps.
EDIT- A simple loop formed from 10mm paracord, with the centre removed can be threaded through the slit. The large knot formed won't pass through the slit and the ridgline should be able to run above the tarp (should you wish) or below as well as enabling the short, tarp tensioning prussic lengths to be fixed to the 'sacrificial' paracord loops, rather than the tough black material.
This could be improved by using a wide toggle to help spread the load, rather than the bunched knot.
Yeah, that's what I've done on my DD 3x2, had it out in gale force wind and only lost one attachment, from the middle of one long edge - the 3x2 has more attachment points than the 3x3. Even then it was the stitching that gave not the webbing.
The DD Tarp does feel a lot heavier than my Tatonka Tarp of the same size, im sure there's not much in it, but Its the first thing I noticed when I picked it up. I will be waiting till the weekend and then I'll be out to setup my new DD tarp & hammock
Now there's an idea! Why didn't I think of that?
!? I'd much prefer toggles over velcro ...... velcro always gets filled with gubins and eventually stops working. Toggles would be far more practical ........ now ...... where do you buy toggles from ..... suppose I could always make my own .
Now there's an idea! Why didn't I think of that?
Try putting the thermarest inside the sleeping bag. Just a thought.
Pablo
1. beer monster........travel......... .............................. ...........................rec eived
2. ahjno...................travel
3. andy e.................travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ....................received
4. littebiglane............campin g............................. .............................. .received
5. dimond dave.........travel x 2............................. .............................. .received
6. lodian...................trave l
7. chainsaw..............travel.. .............................. .............................. ....received
8. geuf......................trav el
9. leon-1...................travel.... .............................. .............................. ..received
10. woodstock............travel... .............................. .............................. .received
11. in wood.................travel... .............................. .............................. .received
12. dark horse dave.....3x3 tarp.......................... .............................. ......received
13. nickg....................trave l
14. richie o.................travel...... .............................. ............................re ceived
15. sandbag47............camping x 2 and 3x3 tarp and travel....................rece ived
16. Huon....................travel and 3x3 tarp and webbing
17. basha...................travel .............................. .............................. .....received
18. mirius...................trave l............................. .............................. .......received
19. bobfromholland......2 x travel and 2 - 3x3 tarps
20. cliffc.....................tra vel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ...................received
21. mr rimps...............travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ...................received
22. myheadsashed......travel...... .............................. ...........................rec eived
23. eskimotwenty........travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ..................received
24. nightwalker............travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ...................received
25. soggy boots..........travel and 3x3 tarp .............................. ..............received
26.mick miller.............travel and3x3tarp.................... ............................re ceived
27.celt_ginger.............tra vel........................... .............................. .........received
28.jimmyhighton..........trave l and3x3tarp.................... .............................r eceived
29.ukhaiku..................tr avel and3x3tarp.................... ...........................rec eived
30.Chester`C...............tra vel..................................................................received
31.Stiks...................... .travel....................... .............................. .............received
32.prophecy.................3x 3 tarp
Can't wait to try it out cheers sandbag
2. ahjno...................travel
3. andy e.................travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ....................received
4. littebiglane............campin g............................. .............................. .received
5. dimond dave.........travel x 2............................. .............................. .received
6. lodian...................trave l
7. chainsaw..............travel.. .............................. .............................. ....received
8. geuf......................trav el
9. leon-1...................travel.... .............................. .............................. ..received
10. woodstock............travel... .............................. .............................. .received
11. in wood.................travel... .............................. .............................. .received
12. dark horse dave.....3x3 tarp.......................... .............................. ......received
13. nickg....................trave l
14. richie o.................travel...... .............................. ............................re ceived
15. sandbag47............camping x 2 and 3x3 tarp and travel....................rece ived
16. Huon....................travel and 3x3 tarp and webbing
17. basha...................travel .............................. .............................. .....received
18. mirius...................trave l............................. .............................. .......received
19. bobfromholland......2 x travel and 2 - 3x3 tarps
20. cliffc.....................tra vel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ...................received
21. mr rimps...............travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ...................received
22. myheadsashed......travel...... .............................. ...........................rec eived
23. eskimotwenty........travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ..................received
24. nightwalker............travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ...................received
25. soggy boots..........travel and 3x3 tarp .............................. ..............received
26.mick miller.............travel and3x3tarp.................... ............................re ceived
27.celt_ginger.............tra vel........................... .............................. .........received
28.jimmyhighton..........trave l and3x3tarp.................... .............................r eceived
29.ukhaiku..................tr avel and3x3tarp.................... ...........................rec eived
30.Chester`C...............tra vel..................................................................received
31.Stiks...................... .travel....................... .............................. .............received
32.prophecy.................3x 3 tarp
Can't wait to try it out cheers sandbag
1. beer monster........travel......... .............................. ...........................received
2. ahjno...................travel......... .............................. ...........................received
3. andy e.................travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ....................received
4. littebiglane............campin g............................. .............................. .received
5. dimond dave.........travel x 2............................. .............................. .received
6. lodian...................trave l
7. chainsaw..............travel.. .............................. .............................. ....received
8. geuf......................trav el....................................................................received
9. leon-1...................travel.... .............................. .............................. ..received
10. woodstock............travel... .............................. .............................. .received
11. in wood.................travel... .............................. .............................. .received
12. dark horse dave.....3x3 tarp.......................... .............................. ......received
13. nickg....................trave l....................................................................received
14. richie o.................travel...... .............................. ............................received
15. sandbag47............camping x 2 and 3x3 tarp and travel....................received
16. Huon....................travel and 3x3 tarp and webbing...........................received
17. basha...................travel .............................. .............................. .....received
18. mirius...................trave l............................. .............................. .......received
19. bobfromholland......2 x travel and 2 - 3x3 tarps.......................................received
20. cliffc.....................tra vel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ...................received
21. mr rimps...............travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ...................received
22. myheadsashed......travel...... .............................. ...........................rec eived
23. eskimotwenty........travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ..................received
24. nightwalker............travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ...................received
25. soggy boots..........travel and 3x3 tarp .............................. ..............received
26.mick miller.............travel and3x3tarp.................... ............................received
27.celt_ginger.............tra vel........................... .............................. .........received
28.jimmyhighton..........trave l and3x3tarp.................... .............................received
29.ukhaiku..................tr avel and3x3tarp.................... ...........................received
30.Chester`C...............tra vel..................................................................received
31.Stiks...................... .travel....................... .............................. .............received
32.prophecy.................3x 3 tarp...............................................................received
2. ahjno...................travel......... .............................. ...........................received
3. andy e.................travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ....................received
4. littebiglane............campin g............................. .............................. .received
5. dimond dave.........travel x 2............................. .............................. .received
6. lodian...................trave l
7. chainsaw..............travel.. .............................. .............................. ....received
8. geuf......................trav el....................................................................received
9. leon-1...................travel.... .............................. .............................. ..received
10. woodstock............travel... .............................. .............................. .received
11. in wood.................travel... .............................. .............................. .received
12. dark horse dave.....3x3 tarp.......................... .............................. ......received
13. nickg....................trave l....................................................................received
14. richie o.................travel...... .............................. ............................received
15. sandbag47............camping x 2 and 3x3 tarp and travel....................received
16. Huon....................travel and 3x3 tarp and webbing...........................received
17. basha...................travel .............................. .............................. .....received
18. mirius...................trave l............................. .............................. .......received
19. bobfromholland......2 x travel and 2 - 3x3 tarps.......................................received
20. cliffc.....................tra vel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ...................received
21. mr rimps...............travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ...................received
22. myheadsashed......travel...... .............................. ...........................rec eived
23. eskimotwenty........travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ..................received
24. nightwalker............travel and 3x3 tarp.......................... ...................received
25. soggy boots..........travel and 3x3 tarp .............................. ..............received
26.mick miller.............travel and3x3tarp.................... ............................received
27.celt_ginger.............tra vel........................... .............................. .........received
28.jimmyhighton..........trave l and3x3tarp.................... .............................received
29.ukhaiku..................tr avel and3x3tarp.................... ...........................received
30.Chester`C...............tra vel..................................................................received
31.Stiks...................... .travel....................... .............................. .............received
32.prophecy.................3x 3 tarp...............................................................received
Got my package today.
GREAT! Now what should I do? Test it out, or eat first!?!
Thanks again! Sandbag and Nick (who must be quickly running out of his business cards now ):You_Rock_
GREAT! Now what should I do? Test it out, or eat first!?!
Thanks again! Sandbag and Nick (who must be quickly running out of his business cards now
):You_Rock_
If you use an underblanket and thermarest put thermarest on underblanket it doesn't slip about and adds the extra warmth!
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