Cheap Knock-Off Chinese Knives

[The_Taffinch]

Hello,

Anyone bought an 'OEM' knife from Ali or similar such as:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free...-3-8-Satin-VG10-Blade-Camping/1711800166.html

Any good? Go on 'fess up.

Cheers,
Matt.

 

[JonathanD]

Don't go there. I did a write up on the fake Bayley's a while back. You get what you pay for... utter cr@p.

 

[Stew]

It's a fake.

Don't buy them.

 

[John Fenna]

If you want a 731 I can let you have one for £30 - the battery needs replacing though.
Do not by fakes!

 

[The_Taffinch]

Yep, I am in no doubt that these are fakes and not actually 'OEM' versions, and that the quality of the product would be inferior to the genuine article. I am also conscious of the ethics of buying a fake a a bit dodgy...and actually I don't think I am seriously considering this.

But, I was wondering whether, comparison with the real thing aside, this would be a decent budget knife in itself? Has anyone got one, and how such copies would stack up against say a Mora in the same price range.

 

[cranmere]

I would far rather buy a Mora than a fake rip-off for a variety of reasons, not least that the Mora will be reliably good quality.

 

[JonathanD]

The quality is hit and miss. When I was doing the write up for the Bayley knife article a few of the fakes passed through my hands (still have a couple somewhere) the fittings ranged from awful to OK as did the grinds and overall shape. A huge difference in the quality from knife to knife, and they had a higher price point at a round $80 per knife. They were OK users, but the heat treat specified was a lie, and they don't last long. For $14.99 then you are really going to be getting a useless piece of junk. They lie about the steel used too. Hardly surprising really.

 

[tom.moran]

I've been warned about the knives on ali

 

[JonathanD]

I've been warned about the knives on ali

With good reason. It's a marketplace for charlatans....

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70739

 

[Clouston98]

I would far rather buy a Mora than a fake rip-off for a variety of reasons, not least that the Mora will be reliably good quality.

This. I hate fakes- I was well cheesed off when I realised my woodgas was a fake- wouldn't have bought it had I known. It still works great and I use It, but I don't like design copy's or fake stuff at all.

 

[mountainm]

Why buy a cheap knock off when you can buy a sanrenmu for the same price as a burger. In general good knives, good steel.

 

[mountainm]

This. I hate fakes- I was well cheesed off when I realised my woodgas was a fake- wouldn't have bought it had I known. It still works great and I use It, but I don't like design copy's or fake stuff at all.

AFAIK there is no patent on that woodgas stove - it's not a fake. The UK distributor is merely selling them off for a lot more than they cost to make.

 

[Countryman]

Actually I meant to post about fake Bear Grylls/ Gerber knives. A month or so ago I nearly got caught out.

A fellow on another Forum had been doing a sterling trade in marked down Ultimate and Folding Scout knives. He then offered up a BG Gerber multitool which looked great and took standard tool bits. I ordered one but while waiting for payment details googled the manufacturers website. No model like that exists. I then went onto eBay and found plenty of that design cheap from China without the logo.

A quick search found a trading standards warning about Ultimate knock offs.

https://thecounterfeitreport.com/product/396/Bear-Grylls-Ultimate-Knives.html

https://thecounterfeitreport.com/product/445/Bear-Grylls-Folding-Scout-Knifes.html


I contacted the site Mods and they knocked the ads on the head.

Obviously I didn't go through with my purchase. I bought a Leatherman off here.


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[Clouston98]

AFAIK there is no patent on that woodgas stove - it's not a fake. The UK distributor is merely selling them off for a lot more than they cost to make.

Ah- I didn't know that. Tbh I just assumed it was a fake. But still- especially on other patented things- I never would buy a fake or knock off. Interesting about the wild stoves though.

 

[Jared]

Products that are made to deliberately to attempt to deceive people are nasty.

The people that make them don't give a **** about the original maker, and certainly don't give a **** to about a buyer that's been fooled.

 

[Dunx]

Actually been caught out with the bg one and have a fake. Hardly used it tbh so cant comment on its quality

 

[presterjohn]

The Chinese make enough good quality kit to not bother going down the fakes route. With the likes of Sanrenmu, Enlan, Navy and Ganzo making a lot of progress in the industry building high value low price items at consistently decent quality, fakes have become a mugs game. Why bother with an item whose history you can have no confidence in when you can buy off a manufacturer that is working hard to build up its reputation? Sanrenmu and Enlan especially are consistent in quality and are turning a corner when it comes to original designs and build quality.

 

[ged]

The Internet is still in its equivalent of the Wild West era. Unfortunately our law-makers are a bunch of tossers (if that isn't being too political for this forum) and we can't nip round and settle things with a Colt .45, so caveat emptor is what's left.

I was thinking of doing a Group Buy on some Spydies. Anyone? okenest:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/C81G...tical-Folding-Knives-For-Sale/1633987859.html

 

[JonathanD]

Oooooooh, nasty fake Spydies. Use of a trademark like that is bang out of order.