No argument at allI spent Sunday playing with fire in Holyrood park.....it was officially sanctioned, I was working for Historic Scotland's Ranger Service as part of Scottish Archaeology month.....in every way I could find evidence for use in the Iron Age, complete with a very wide range of tinder and kindling plants. Plants that I foraged for, or bartered with my friends for, in season, without any over exploitation of natural resources.
and I was joined by other members who came along to try, to show, to demo, too. That's bushcraft
The bcusa clearly talks of certificates of proficiency, John Fenna says he's finishing his basic and that the intermediate has been posted.....sorry, but that 'is' scout badges.
No offence to the scouts amongst us, I think you do a wonderful job, but I'm twenty five years past the time I want any involvement in scouting.
I don't have a military background, and I don't want one (again no offence intended, but military thinking does run to courses to be passed and wee patches to be worn)
I love the diversity of bushcrafting interests, the sheer range of abilities and environments, and I really wouldn't like to see that stiffled by some kind of social pressure on members to, 'Be all you can be!!!" and have the certificates (tags) to prove it. To fill some check list like Munro baggers who try to get through all of them, and do so seeing none. (The smart ones realise this and go back and do them all again, taking time to enjoy and relish each in it's own rich setting.)
Can't see how it can avoid the sleeveful of badges or the chest full of medal syndrome, tbh.
Nah, I wouldn't do that; it's waaaay to wide a topic to be tied down like that.Careful Mary you're defining what is 'officially' undefinable....As for badges etc... BCUK is happy to give away patches, stickers, leather fobs with the BCUK logo that say hey I'm part of a clan or I belong....Having a patch that says I've completed an online course in 'bushcraft' ( what ever that is) is not overly onerous...There are a lot of things that would need ironing out and a few fish hooks for BCUK to resolve but it's not a bad idea per se...
Agreed I am biased when it comes to having well structured and well assessed and moderated certification when you want to operate commercially.However an online course be it on BCUSA or BCUK aimed at Joe blogs who wants to learn against a set syllabus for his own benefit and knowledge is a long way from that TBH...I don't think I'd liken it to Blue Peter either....Fundamentally if it was there say in it's own sub forum folk would either take part or not and it likely would not impinge that much on the other activity on the site... If it was structured correctly and folks were happy with the concept it could become a revenue stream for BCUK to assist with the ongoing operating costs...Nah, I wouldn't do that; it's waaaay to wide a topic to be tied down like that.Your own previous posts demonstrate that you do think 'certification' is not a bad thing, so I think your bias is as inherant as mine.
I will never look at someone wearing a Woodlore badge in the same light ever again!I agree with Mary, it'll just create a hierarchy whether you want it to or not. You'll end up with people lording it because they've completed x, y & z. It's meaningless. Bushcraft is essentially Live Action Role Play anyway ....minus the dungeons and dragons, but what use are badges? Does the Australian aborigine need to have so many before he can make a fire or hunt 'guanas? Does the Inuit need to achieve a seal hunting badge or an igloo building badge? Is that what it really boils down to, badges?
If bushcraft is really just LARP'ing, status hunting and badge collection, then crack on, but you have to know you could also end up looking a bit of a nob with all your comedy badges. It reminds me of a porter I used to know who would join every organisation he could to collect the badge. He'd walk around with his tunic covered in em. If you asked him about em, he'd puff his chest out and proudly tell you what each one was for. He was a nice fella and harmless enough, but he did make himself look like a bit of a clown. Any badge you collect on an internet forum is completely worthless. Just be carefull how much chest-puffing you do off the back of 'em, or you'll fall foul of "Bill-the-porter-syndrome".