Berghaus Munro? Sabre 30? Cuillin 2? So many daypacks...

[Erbswurst]

@MartinK9

Do you have a idea where he could get the green ones?

Does the Nalgene Everyday 1 litre bottle fit together with the a nesting mug into the side pouch?
And the 1,5 litres version?

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Optimal would be in my opinion one of these stainless steel mugs.

I would buy two bottles and two mugs and put them into both side pouches. One mug for coffee or tea, one for food.

TBS 750ml Stainless Steel Billy Can Cup with Bail Handle & Lid

The TBS 750ml pot with a bail handle is truly an excellent piece of kit. It has so much going for it and has been really well thought out for the

www.thebushcraftstore.co.uk

How many litres volume has such a Munro side pouch?

 

[Jared]

KitMonster generally have Munros.

Daysack, Berghaus Munro II, Cedar Green, IRR, New, Kit Monster

High-quality military, survival and outdoor kit and equipment for professional users sourced from government and commercial suppliers.

www.kitmonster.co.uk

No side pouches though.
Jay Jays in Brecon will add mesh pouches and other mods.

Daysack / Daypack Mods | Genuine JayJays Ltd

A range of 'Daysack Modifications Daysack Mods' from Genuine JayJays Ltd

www.jayjaysbrecon.co.uk

 

[Erbswurst]

Incredible, that there are neither the original side pouches nor after market offers available.

 

[arthem]

Sorry to hijack the thread but I was wondering if anyone knew how the Berghaus Centurio 30 compares to the Munro in terms of size and quality. I was looking at getting the Centurio 30 with 2x 10L side pockets for going to and setting up camp and then using just the rucksack for climbing / day hikes.

 

[Erbswurst]

I think it's nearly the same but has a for civilians slightly better back solution.

I guess the Munro with side pouches didn't convince them totally and so they offer now the Centurios with and the Munro as ultra light mountain troop version without sidepouches and that's it.

The Germans don't use the MOLLE system and want light rucksacks.
Into the Munro compression straps the Bavarians put Ski or climbing rope. Side pouches would rather disturb here.

Munro and Atlas are made for the German army the models with MOLLE and PLCE /MMPS system for the others.

That's more or less all.

 

[arthem]

I think it's nearly the same but has a for civilians slightly better back solution.

I guess the Munro with side pouches didn't convince them totally and so they offer now the Centurios with and the Munro as ultra light mountain troop version without sidepouches and that's it.

The Germans don't use the MOLLE system and want light rucksacks.
Into the Munro compression straps the Bavarians put Ski or climbing rope. Side pouches would rather disturb here.

Munro and Atlas are made for the German army the models with MOLLE and PLCE /MMPS system for the others.

That's more or less all.

I suppose the question now is do I get the 30L with 2x Side Pockets or do I get the 45L?
I suppose 45L is a tad too large for climbing Ben Nevis unless its winter....

 

[Jared]

Incredible, that there are neither the original side pouches nor after market offers available.

The Centurio has the option of zip on pouches.

Patrol Pack, Berghaus Centurio 30, MMPS (colour options), Kit Monster

High-quality military, survival and outdoor kit and equipment for professional users sourced from government and commercial suppliers.

www.kitmonster.co.uk

 

[Erbswurst]

Yes, I wrote that the same time, Jared.

The point is, that the Centurios have NO horizontal compression straps. They have a different ski /rope strap solution!

So, a too large Centurio rucksack will stay too large.

That's why a look at the Savotta Jääkäri L is also no bad idea.
That you can squeeze without end.

Savotta Jääkäri L rucksack - Varusteleka.fi

The Jääkäri L is a large, multi-day pack designed as an update to the old 1980s Finnish Border Guard patrol pack.

www.varusteleka.com

Varusteleka spotted the weak point and ordered large, well constructed side pouches for it that are made by Savotta too, but sold under Varustelekas home brand Särmä.

Särmä TST General purpose pouch XL - Varusteleka.fi

A straightforward general purpose pouch with extra secure double closure. This extra large-sized pouch works perfectly as an extra side pouch on a rucksack.

www.varusteleka.com

 

[Erbswurst]

And that's why if bushcrafters talk about a 45 litres rucksack, the Karrimor SF Sabre 45 isn't far away. Here fit large PLCE side pouches additional.

You can compress it in all directions and in the side pouches fit Mors pot or 1,8 litres Pathfinder Bushpot.

Pathfinder Stainless Bush Pot, 1.75 litres

Type: bush pot Material: 304 stainless steel Diameter: 13.9 cm

www.knivesandtools.com

That makes the model becoming the standard recommendation for bushcrafters.

 

[Jared]

Also remembered the Swedish Army Stridssäck 2000 rucksack.

And can get side pouches for that...

Recon Sidofickor till Stridssäck 2000 Militärgrön

Recon Sidofickor till Stridssäck 2000 Militärgrön i vänster- och högerutförande som passar till Försvarsmaktens Stridssäck 2000. Sidofickorna ökar packförmågan och därmed uthålligheten.

www.recon.se

 

[Erbswurst]

A cool pack in the first view.

But do they sell here only the side pouches and not the rucksack itself?

@TLM
@Norrland

 

[TLM]

Yup, that page is only for the side pockets and their pages do not have the pack itself.

 

[Erbswurst]

Thank you!

 

[MartinK9]

@MartinK9

Do you have a idea where he could get the green ones?

Does the Nalgene Everyday 1 litre bottle fit together with the a nesting mug into the side pouch?
And the 1,5 litres version?

Nalgene Everyday Weithals Trinkflasche 1000ml transparent | campz.de

Nalgene Everyday Weithals Trinkflasche 1000ml transparent - günstig kaufen beim Outdoor Profi CAMPZ! | Aktuelle Angebote✔ Produktnews✔ Bewertungen✔ » 30 Tage Rückgaberecht

www.campz.de

Optimal would be in my opinion one of these stainless steel mugs.

I would buy two bottles and two mugs and put them into both side pouches. One mug for coffee or tea, one for food.

TBS 750ml Stainless Steel Billy Can Cup with Bail Handle & Lid

The TBS 750ml pot with a bail handle is truly an excellent piece of kit. It has so much going for it and has been really well thought out for the

www.thebushcraftstore.co.uk

How many litres volume has such a Munro side pouch?

That's a 1 litre side by side with a 0.5 Litre Nalgene.

I got my spares from ebay, they pop up from time to time. £20 plus postage is the going rate.

HTH

 

[Erbswurst]

Thank you very much!

 

[MrEd]

@Erbswurst

this is may be an interesting pack...

lowe alpine salient?

RARE Lowe Alpine Salient 70 OD Olive Green Drab Bushcraft Rucksack Backpack #24 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for RARE Lowe Alpine Salient 70 OD Olive Green Drab Bushcraft Rucksack Backpack #24 at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products.

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[Erbswurst]

Indeed!
I ask myself why they seem to have stopped the production of rucksacks like this.

 

[Limaed]

Sorry to hijack the thread but I was wondering if anyone knew how the Berghaus Centurio 30 compares to the Munro in terms of size and quality. I was looking at getting the Centurio 30 with 2x 10L side pockets for going to and setting up camp and then using just the rucksack for climbing / day hikes.

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I suppose the question now is do I get the 30L with 2x Side Pockets or do I get the 45L?
I suppose 45L is a tad too large for climbing Ben Nevis unless its winter....

I’ve got both, Berghaus didn’t quite get it right with the Centurio but that’s just my opinion. The Centurio is squarer and has a more comfortable back system but it’s also a fair bit heavier than the Munro. The plastic loops on the front are set up wrong for an ice axe (correct on the Munro). The lack of side compression on the Centurio is annoying but is how the bag is set up. The Karrimor SF 45 might be the best option as it was designed on the old Karrimor Alpiniste which was very much a mountaineering pack. 45 ltrs is fine for summer if you can compress the sides down.

 

[arthem]

The plastic loops on the front are set up wrong for an ice axe (correct on the Munro).

Does this mean that it is not possible to carry ice axes securely with the Centurio?

 

[Limaed]

Does this mean that it is not possible to carry ice axes securely with the Centurio?

You can, but it’s normal on a long walk in to drop the axe through the bottom loop then fold it over and buckle the shaft near the lid. The top buckles should be horizontal whereas on the Centurio they are vertical. You can kind of make it work but it’s like Berghaus have forgot their heritage. I suppose it’s not really a bag aimed at the mountaineering market but if that’s the case I would just remove the loops altogether and add more webbing etc. The Munro first appeared in the 1980’s and it’s a great all rounder if a bit small for winter mountaineering.