berghaus "centurio" vs. karrimor "sabre" ?!

[forrestdweller]

after several months of research looking for a backpack for overnight trips (and an upcoming longer trip; volume ca 45 liters) and manufacturers telling me they either don't have a dealer in Costa Rica (or cheerfully telling me about the nearest dealer in Ecuador or the US...) and sellers only accepting paypal (or likewise new-fangled methods) i FINALLY found a seller who both ships to here and accepts bank transfer as payment. coming week i have (fingers, toes and nose hairs crossed) some paid work coming up so i'm planning to get myself a new pack... . the seller has a few of each of the packs mentioned in stock, both roughly the same price.
long rant cut short: which one is the better one (for hiking/ bushcrafting activities)?! the "sabre" gets mentioned on occasion but i didn't find much about the "centurio"....(i'm quite happy with my 110l berghaus pack so i presume the smaller one might be of similar quality)

 

[Foogs]

I'm sure other will be able to share more opinions, but for me the Centurio is let down by its waist strap - it's not padded like the sabre, it's just a webbing strap which won't be comfortable.

And there are some compatibility issues with the side pouches and zips, I don't think it takes the standard plce pouches that the sabre does.

Hth.

 

[Limaed]

Both good packs. The Sabre was based on the old Karrimor Alpinste the Centurio more like an updated Munro. Not much between them really. I think given the option the Sabre is probably the slightly better pack - Foogs is correct about the waist strap. I would go for the Sabre.

 

[FerlasDave]

I had a sabre before, the way the shoulder straps are designed they’re fixed in a very narrow point and with any heavy load they really hurt my shoulders. I have a Munro now which as stated is what the centurio is based off. The shoulder straps are far more comfortable for me, I rarely use the waist strap but when I do it’s not uncomfortable, though I do get what people mean about it being lightweight.

 

[forrestdweller]

sorry for the late reply (as i've been busy acting as tour guide for a group of visiting university students): i'll probably go for the sabre then if they're still in stock next week...

 

[BumblingAlong]

Issue for me with the Sabre 45 is the back foam, effectively the internal frame is too hard. On the 35 it's perfect and kind of hugs the back as well as doubling as a kneel pad.

Need to source a softer but still supportive back support foam. Any suggestions/hacks for a softer but still supportive back support