I'm not sure if this is all light hearted banter or I need to close the thread because it's getting personal between people now????
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I find it noticeable that those who find heavily in favour of the man don't address the criticism, but attack the critics.
You can keep the bridge, it's no' wide enough.
Toddy
You can keep the bridge, it's no' wide enough.
Toddy
I addressed the criticism and never attacked the critics. I pointed out where the odd person had obviously exaggerated and made stuff up to try and prove a point sure. Many of those remarks are bordering on slander are are blatantly made up. And the information stated as fact about the SAS reserves and Selection are false facts.
The only criticism of him personally that has so far been valid has been the bat incident and his poor choice of programme makers he signed a long term contract with. All other programme content criticism should be aimed at the programme makers. He is just the person they pay to do and say what is scripted.
Funking hell! How much more mileage has this subject got? These threads are getting like the Police Academy franchise. The first couple were ok but they quickly descended into the same tired formula over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
I thought you explained the bat incident remarkably clearly, and you have not been in the habit of personal attacks at any time JD.
I don't take the view that because he signed a long term contract that that somehow exempts him from any responsibility for his actions though. He chose to fulfill the role, if indeed it were a role, that the director and producer seem to have wanted.
Actually, if that were true, then his role as CS could be perceived to be simply a different contract.
M
p.s Point taken Bushwhacker
Life is too short for this mince.............I'm away to finish a basket
I don't take the view that because he signed a long term contract that that somehow exempts him from any responsibility for his actions though. He chose to fulfill the role, if indeed it were a role, that the director and producer seem to have wanted.
Actually, if that were true, then his role as CS could be perceived to be simply a different contract.
M
p.s Point taken Bushwhacker
Life is too short for this mince.............I'm away to finish a basket
It's true, but I'm equally fed up of mentioning him in a thread or review and then having to read another ten repeat posts after that about hotels and p**s drinking, which drifts the whole thread off the original subject. Fair enough have a go about the programme content and the show being a pile of drivel, but it always goes much further than that and people really lay into the man personally. It's like taht poor guy Adam Henson on CountryFile who presented a segment about badger culling in the UK. The next day and ever since, he has been attacked and abused. He just presented it. Some people just can't seem to understand that.
Probably the same sort of people who are still gunning for Trevor Jordache off of Brookside.
The programme is an entertainment programme though. The premise is to put him in a remote location and for him to get out using what he can along the way. He does dangerous things, because if he didn't, it would be boring TV. He does gross things, but if he didn't, it would be boring TV. It's sensationalist TV making to draw in audiences. Chris Ryan made something similar, but he was being chased by enemy forces at teh same time. Now he sets booby traps meant to wound and kill people. That's dangerous and not to be attempted in ones own garden. It's all about context and TV entertainment. It was never meant to be a documentary like Rays programmes. If somebody thinks they can make a grapplinng hook out of their pants and swing over the Niagara Falls, and then does it. I'd question their ability to reason and seperate fact from fictional TV rather than blaming Bear Grylls.
Just for the record I've actually met and talked with Adam Henson and he is a really decent chap......
we chatted about rare breeds instead
He is indeed. I've met Ellie H too when shooting a segment about adders. She's better looking than Adam. He is getting a load of stick about that badger culling thing. Disgraceful.
I listened to this episode and I have to completely disagree with you. I dont and didnt get the impression the guy was desperately trying to prove himself to anyone or big himself up like you suggest at all. I got the impression that the guy has done a heck of a lot with his life that he is extremely proud of (how many people will fail SAS selection, to then attempt a second selection and pass, as well as succeed in reaching the summit of Mount Everest...a handfull in history maybe?) and he has a level of humility about himself. I actually pick up a level of excitement in his voice that he is actually trying to reign in a bit. Having been in Sales and Marketing for 20 years with a specialism in verbal communication, and a more recent foray into voice acting, i would like to think my opinion isnt just completely without foundation. I have read his autobiography, and I personally get the impression that the guy has a very definite idea of what he loves doing, he follows his dreams, has an exceptionally high level of determination, and I dont get the impression at all that he craves the fame business.
Reading between the lines of some of the Bear Grylls detractors I can detect a fair amount of jealousy..
Contempt, yes. Jealousy, no. I am however envious of the deep knowledge of the likes of Mr Kochanski et al.
I just smell a phoney with Edward Grylls. His military details don't ring quite true for a start. I've met several archetypal ex-forces or wannabe ex-forces men who mention 'special forces' at the drop of a hat when they were probably in the galley peeling spuds or were in the cadets at best. Let's see your military record, Edward. Clear it up once and for all...
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