Barefoot shoes/boots

Lithril

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Not the Five Fingers yet, mainly due to price. I have a couple of pairs of Vivobarefoots, again Gobi or Ra for work, I've also got a set of their trail shoes for the woods. I also quite like Inov-8s although most of them are not 0 drop so can't be considered barefoot but very flexible. I also wear a set of the Xero shoe sandals most of the year round which I think are about as close to barefoot as you can get. I will get a set of Vibrams one day but slightly out of my budget at the moment.
 

MountainGhost

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I ended up doing a full 100-up twice more before going to bed, started to get a nice steady marching style rhythm going halfway through my second set, really makes all the joints from your hips to your toes feel great, thanks for sharing that i'd never heard of it

Most welcome. Long been one of my favourite exercises. I almost become a preacher when talking about it. The wiring-in of coordination and connection means running becomes a lot less stressful on your frame. It's a bit like wearing a pack with all the straps done up right. Good for old folk and preventing falls in old age too.
 

boatman

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Shaka the Zulu leader had his Impis throw away their sandals because they were clumsy and inhibited running, if we are looking at sandals in South Africa. Biggest problem I find with sandals is stones getting inside. Don't see a reason how this can be prevented with San-dals but it might click.
 

mrcharly

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I used to do a lot of barefoot running and walking (I did the Great North Run twice barefoot). The so-called 'barefoot' shoes do not hold any attraction for me for one main reason; they reduce the sensitivity. If my bare foot came down on something damaging, I felt it immediately and reacted, so I didn't get damage. I don't mean a simple thorn, I mean a serious pointed object, the sort that would punch straight through these shoes or cause major bruising (like a pointed rock).

My thinking is that if you want to go barefoot running, go barefoot. Don't be half-arsed about it. One of major advantages is being able to go through wet ground, through bogs, then onto dry and not worry about it. If you were wearing these 'barefoot' shoes, you'd have soggy feet.

As for the heel strike or toe strike, that depends on speed and gait. If you are loping along steadily, then it's heel first, rolling to toe. Faster running, toe first. People don't run marathons on their toes.
The furthest I've run barefoot is probably about 15miles. Furthest in shoes was about 20, but that was in walking boots when I was young and (even more) stupid.

The best justification for using the barefoot shoes is if you live in an area where it would be difficult to go around barefoot, because it wouldn't be accepted.
 

superc0ntra

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I've used ninja toe Zemgear in the woods for several years (when not going really barefoot) and really enjoy their thin soles. I recently purchased a pair of Vivobarefoot Scott which are more of a traditional canvas boot with a thin sole.
Zemgear are small in their size, I usually wear 43-44 but had to get size 45. Vivobarefoot are more normally sized so here I wear a 43.
I can recommend any of them if you are not used to barefoot hiking or if the terrain is such that you want to protect your feet while still maintaining a feel of the surface.
I tested five fingers but they didn't fit my feet.
Hope this helps in your decision.
 

GreenNomad

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'barefoot' shoes do not hold any attraction for me for one main reason; they reduce the sensitivity. If my bare foot came down on something damaging, I felt it immediately and reacted, so I didn't get damage. I don't mean a simple thorn, I mean a serious pointed object, the sort that would punch straight through these shoes or cause major bruising (like a pointed rock).

If you were to step on a pointy rock, protection from a shoe would be more valuable than only your skin. Even if there was a small rock with sharp edges that could cut your foot and leave you done for the day, where as shoes actually provide a barrier of protection. It's not quite so simple to be able to instantly react and take all your weight off one foot so not to damage it on what ever your stepping on, especially when your not even aware your stepping on it!

I think the barefoot shoes are a great idea since they do still greatly increase sensitivity compared to general running shoes, and as GGTBod mentioned, they are great for developing your leg muscles and enhancing overall leg strength. Plus providing a protective barrier. I would run completely barefoot, but it would be depending on the terrain I think
 

GreenNomad

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Personal preference and opinion I suppose!

I'm looking forward to trying the Vibram fivefingers, quite pricey, but they will hopefully be worth it
 

Dave

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Shaka the Zulu leader had his Impis throw away their sandals because they were clumsy and inhibited running, if we are looking at sandals in South Africa. Biggest problem I find with sandals is stones getting inside. Don't see a reason how this can be prevented with San-dals but it might click.

Well Chris Townsend does a lot of his long distance walking in sandals.

They were invented by a frenchman named Phillipe Fallope.
 

C_Claycomb

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A word of warning about barefoot shoes comes from my friend Stuart who really likes his Vivos. After wearing nothing else for a while, he found his feet had spread and would not fit properly in some of his more specialist boots.

A word of warning regarding the heel raise exercises.

I have had problems with my arches and then started getting pain in my knees, so got custom insoles. With the insoles came a leaflet of exercises. For a long while I ignored the exercises since the insoles seemed to have sorted out the knee pain, but it came back, so I started the exercises, which included toe scrunches and heel raises. In fairly short order I was getting far worse knee pain AND pain from the sole of my foot. Turned out that the heel raises and such were causing the tendons in my leg to tighten and pull on the sole, the physio said it was the start of plantar fasciitis.

Looking up this condition:
What causes plantar fasciitis?

A number of factors can contribute to plantar fasciitis. While men can get plantar fasciitis, it is more common in women. You're also more likely to have this condition as you age or if you:

  • Are overweight.
  • Take up a new form of exercise or suddenly increase the intensity of your exercise.
  • Are on your feet for several hours each day.
  • Have other medical conditions such as rheumatoid arthritis or lupus (systemic lupus erythematosus).
  • Tend to wear high-heeled shoes, and then switch abruptly to flat shoes.
  • Wear shoes that are worn out with weak arch supports and thin soles.
  • Have flat feet or an unusually high arch.
  • Have legs of uneven lengths or an abnormal walk or foot position.
  • Have tight achilles tendons, or ‘ heel cords’
.
 
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Big G

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A number of factors can contribute to plantar fasciitis. While men can get plantar fasciitis, it is more common in women. You're also more likely to have this condition as you age or if you:

  • Are overweight.
  • Take up a new form of exercise or suddenly increase the intensity of your exercise.
  • Are on your feet for several hours each day.
  • Have other medical conditions such as rheumatoid arthritis or lupus (systemic lupus erythematosus).
  • Tend to wear high-heeled shoes, and then switch abruptly to flat shoes.
  • Wear shoes that are worn out with weak arch supports and thin soles.
  • Have flat feet or an unusually high arch.
  • Have legs of uneven lengths or an abnormal walk or foot position.
  • Have tight achilles tendons, or ‘ heel cords’
.

You could class a good percentage of the population having plantar fasciitis.. by that list :)
 

Stew

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What causes plantar fasciitis?

A number of factors can contribute to plantar fasciitis. While men can get plantar fasciitis, it is more common in women. You're also more likely to have this condition as you age or if you:
  • Wear shoes that are worn out with weak arch supports and thin soles.
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This is one of the big areas of controversy. We've made footwear a problem for ourselves.

You're likely to suffer issues if you are used to an arch support and then suddenly don't have one. The same is for padding of the sole.

I have been in minimalist shoes for a few years now and no issues. I don't wish to look back to adding padding.

Arch support is just a crutch really. It stops the foot getting strong, muscles aren't used and go weak so when the support isn't there a problem occurs and the lack of arch support is blamed - the solution often given is add arch support where it should be strengthen your foot!

I'm not saying it's without potential issues or is a magic cure all.
 
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This is one of the big areas of controversy. We've made footwear a problem for ourselves.

You're likely to suffer issues if you are used to an arch support and then suddenly don't have one. The same is for padding of the sole.

I have been in minimalist shoes for a few years now and no issues. I don't wish to look back to adding padding.

Arch support is just a crutch really. It stops the foot getting strong, muscles aren't used and go weak so when the support isn't there a problem occurs and the lack of arch support is blamed - the solution often given is add arch support where it should be strengthen your foot!

I'm not saying it's without potential issues or is a magic cure all.

So agree. Any changes need to be made slowly and in incremental steps.

The physics of what makes an arch strong (compression) are destroyed by sticking a support in the middle !

Wikipedia "
Basic concepts

An arch is a pure compression form. It can span a large area by resolving forces into compressive stresses and, in turn eliminating tensile stresses. This is sometimes referred to as arch action.[4] As the forces in the arch are carried to the ground, the arch will push outward at the base, called thrust. ..."
 

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