A non-EU custom charges tale (beware!)
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Good job the seller didn't sent it as a gift mate, you'd got slaughtered if you mentioned it on here.
He'll be one of those that says his item didn't arrive and put a PayPal claim in that stings some seller not smart enough to use tracked and signed for. 
I was hardly trying to be all high and mighty about it, I was just stating a point, and an opinion. Still, if you want to take it personally, I'll leave you to it. I don't expect to be insulted on a forum where opinions are shared.
I was hardly trying to be all high and mighty about it, I was just stating a point, and an opinion. Still, if you want to take it personally, I'll leave you to it. I don't expect to be insulted on a forum where opinions are shared.
If the vendor gets pinged by US Customs/ IRS marking up his overseas sales incorrectly, and he would be pinged if HMRC found the parcel to be incorrectly labelled as they'd report to the US; he would be penalised by the US authorities, for this reason, many US vendors are, quite rightly, reluctant to do this.
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He'll be one of those that says his item didn't arrive and put a PayPal claim in that stings some seller not smart enough to use tracked and signed for.
I was hardly trying to be all high and mighty about it, I was just stating a point, and an opinion. Still, if you want to take it personally, I'll leave you to it. I don't expect to be insulted on a forum where opinions are shared.
Now it's getting personal, high and mighty maybe not, now though, condescending maybe.
He'll be one of those that says his item didn't arrive and put a PayPal claim in that stings some seller not smart enough to use tracked and signed for.
I was hardly trying to be all high and mighty about it, I was just stating a point, and an opinion. Still, if you want to take it personally, I'll leave you to it. I don't expect to be insulted on a forum where opinions are shared.
I took it personally when you said i was defrauding HMRC, so what, i said it on a pubic forum.
No need for you to jump in and tell me what i've done in illegal. I know that already.
All part of my utter naivety on the subject
Aye we'll blame you for starting the thread..
Mod hat on
Lets play nicely and not insult each other
And lets not suggest breaking the law either.
Your understanding in this is appreciated
Lets play nicely and not insult each other
And lets not suggest breaking the law either.
Your understanding in this is appreciated
Actually you might also want to check the forum rules about advocating illegal activity. I'm surprised this got as far as it dis before a mod stepping in.
I've sent legitimate gifts to the UK before and yeah, I put the value on the customs label. That said, I either used the price I paid for it here or I estimated (as best I could) it's value here. I suspect some of those items might well be dearer there though.
It is often pointed out to people that the best prices for (manufactured abroad) knives are to be found in shops like Hennie Haynes. The import duties are why their prices are higher than the $ prices.
Getting a retailer or maker in another country to try to sneak past customs could put them in trouble, as you have pointed out.
There is nothing illegal (it is just on your own morals) about having a friend abroad buy something for you and ship it to you as a gift. However, HMRC may still decide that you are 'importing' the item and it is up to you to prove that you are receiving a gift. Also, if you then have problems with the item, you may run into issues as you were not the original purchaser.
Getting a retailer or maker in another country to try to sneak past customs could put them in trouble, as you have pointed out.
There is nothing illegal (it is just on your own morals) about having a friend abroad buy something for you and ship it to you as a gift. However, HMRC may still decide that you are 'importing' the item and it is up to you to prove that you are receiving a gift. Also, if you then have problems with the item, you may run into issues as you were not the original purchaser.
I once crossed the border into Mexico from the USA on a day visit. I'd never tasted tequila and it was only about a dollar a bottle in those days so I bought one to try it. I hadn't realised that I would have to pay a large amount of duty on it when we went back into Texas: equal to nearly twice the original cost of the bottle. SWMBO was lived as we were on a very tight budget. The worst thing was that it tasted pretty awful but she said, "You bought it: you drink it!" Pride made me sip it with simulated enjoyment in the evenings round the campfire. That bottle seemed bottomless: it only single malts and vieux armagnac bottles lasted that long!
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