The Titanic sinking conspiracy theory

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Trunks

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Aw! i was enjoying this thread, to keep the "fun" going, a montage of eyewitness & news station accounts from the day. Certainly interesting viewing :)

[video=youtube;dgM6hjNedE0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgM6hjNedE0&feature=re lated[/video]
 

Hammock_man

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I think the really scary thing is some of those folk offering "ideas" go out at the weekend with really sharp things.......
 

HillBill

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Nice one, i'd not seen that one.

If people watch that and dont think its odd how there are 3 explosions reported by all those people prior to collapse, no markings on the planes etc then........:confused:



Aw! i was enjoying this thread, to keep the "fun" going, a montage of eyewitness & news station accounts from the day. Certainly interesting viewing :)

[video=youtube;dgM6hjNedE0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgM6hjNedE0&feature=re lated[/video]
 

santaman2000

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Nice one, i'd not seen that one.

If people watch that and dont think its odd how there are 3 explosions reported by all those people prior to collapse, no markings on the planes etc then........:confused:

Never mind the fact that the military plane they edited into the video was a KC-135; which is just the AF version of the Boeing 707 (a civilian airliner) They look more or less identical in the air. Never mind that almost ALL aircraft look like a grey or black sillouette in the sky. That's why the plane spotters in WWII were taught to recognize sillouettes rather than paint schemes or markings. Never mind the fact that the average pedestrian who might have witnessed it don't know what year the war of 1812 was fought. Then it all starts to be believable.
 

HillBill

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Paramedics and firemen, all at the scene, reporting people being thrown against walls by the explosions, paramedics who had to attend to the injuries of folk caught in the explosions etc. Are you saying the trained professionals dont know what they are on about? Yet you will happily accept the story of a government who werent there, and who DIDNT investigate it very well at all. I find thats bordering on insulting the memory of the folk who died that day. As a military man i would expect better of you Southey. I'm not asking you to believe in a conspiracy theory, i'm asking you to respect the word of professional people who were eyewitnesses of the event, who wont get into such a state of panic as they are trained not to. You know as well as i do that when the sh1t hits the fan, training kicks in. Thats the whole point of training. Else why would we do it? These folk are trained to keep a clear head when everyone else is panicking. I'm not listening to what others are saying, just the trained professionals who were there.

I'm inclined to believe these people, out of respect for what they did that day, before that day and since that day. Yet it seems many participating in this thread have no respect for them whatsoever, or perhaps they respect what they did but not what they say eh? Which imo is the same as no respect at all.

I'm with the firemen and paramedics and the 3000 people who died that day. I know which side i'm on. Do you?

So was there 1 explosion, 3 explosions or 50 explosions, or were people in a state of mass hysteria?
 

Retired Member southey

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Paramedics and firemen, all at the scene, reporting people being thrown against walls by the explosions, paramedics who had to attend to the injuries of folk caught in the explosions etc. Are you saying the trained professionals dont know what they are on about? Yet you will happily accept the story of a government who werent there, and who DIDNT investigate it very well at all. I find thats bordering on insulting the memory of the folk who died that day. As a military man i would expect better of you Southey. I'm not asking you to believe in a conspiracy theory, i'm asking you to respect the word of professional people who were eyewitnesses of the event, who wont get into such a state of panic as they are trained not to. You know as well as i do that when the sh1t hits the fan, training kicks in. Thats the whole point of training. Else why would we do it? These folk are trained to keep a clear head when everyone else is panicking. I'm not listening to what others are saying, just the trained professionals who were there.

I'm inclined to believe these people, out of respect for what they did that day, before that day and since that day. Yet it seems many participating in this thread have no respect for them whatsoever, or perhaps they respect what they did but not what they say eh? Which imo is the same as no respect at all.

I'm with the firemen and paramedics and the 3000 people who died that day. I know which side i'm on. Do you?

Who the hell do you think you are!
 

HillBill

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Never mind the fact that the military plane they edited into the video was a KC-135; which is just the AF version of the Boeing 707 (a civilian airliner) They look more or less identical in the air. Never mind that almost ALL aircraft look like a grey or black sillouette in the sky. That's why the plane spotters in WWII were taught to recognize sillouettes rather than paint schemes or markings. Never mind the fact that the average pedestrian who might have witnessed it don't know what year the war of 1812 was fought. Then it all starts to be believable.

Oh so the video isn't even real now isn't it?


We dont need a silhouette id on an aircraft we can see perfectly clearly. Where is the colour scheme of the aircraft? All civilian airliners have one. Yet this one doesnt. So because there is no colour scheme you now claim that the video is edited.

You are ignoring so much that it almost seems you are coming up with explanations to try make it fit with what you believe no matter how strong the evidence is to the contrary.

I on the other hand, don't actually have a belief, other than something is very wrong with the official story. I have a desire to know the truth, nothing more. If you think we already have it then fair enough. Thats entirely your choice. But dont make things up as you go along.
 

HillBill

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Nobody mate, just pointing out as a professional servicemen, you should respect other professional servicemen and women. Seems no one wants to believe the hundreds of eyewitnesses.

Just imagine for a second, if you were one of those eyewitnesses, and you heard and saw what they did, then you told your story as honestly as you could, a story which was backed up by many other people and the govenment turns round and says, "no you didn't hear that, no you didn't see that" how would you feel?

Bear in mind too, that the people who called the official story into question, were these same eyewitnesses. Not some random conspiracy theorists.

Who the hell do you think you are!
 

rik_uk3

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No markings on this plane either
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-hDyGvidPk

This is the plane
632570-boeing-727.jpg
 

Retired Member southey

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Hahahaha you professional in relation to me! any hooo

look here,

video at 3 secs or so in,

View attachment 10045

video here,

[video=youtube;TJOwttgBpzE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJOwttgBpzE&feature=re lated[/video]

the livery in 2001,(sorry I have this wrong , my bad)

APFN217UAdptLAX.JPG
wrong one!

this was the livery,

United-Airlines-R_jpg_630x463_pad-black_upscale_q85.jpg


nineleven2.jpg


1.jpg


not grey,

this was the first one just so there isnt and confusion(seen clearly on many vids(much like the UA plane))

zzzzzAmerican_Airlines_767-200_N324AA.jpg





hmmmmmmm professional witness testimony\statements you say!:D
 
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Retired Member southey

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I was witness in as much as I was sat in my barrack room with the rest of trade training class watching it on telly, not there at the place it happened, but I have as have many of my friends been impacted by the evens of that day in a greater way than a little delay in getting a flight at heathrow, or having to pack my toiletries differently.
 

HillBill

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Do you have any idea what i did for a living mate?

I wasn't even comparing myself to you, but if you want to play "my dads better than your dad" then feel free to play it with yourself. I've grown up since i was a kid.

Anyway. Both planes hitting the towers were grey, yet one of the planes "said" to have hit the towers was all blue underneath.

Also. nowhere did i mention those firemen or paramedics talking about aircraft. They were talking about explosions where they were.

Hahahaha you professional in relation to me! any hooo

look here,

video at 3 secs or so in,

View attachment 10045

video here,

[video=youtube;TJOwttgBpzE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJOwttgBpzE&feature=re lated[/video]

the livery in 2001,

APFN217UAdptLAX.JPG


nineleven2.jpg


1.jpg


not grey,

this was the first one just so there isnt and confusion(seen clearly on many vids(much like the UA plane))

zzzzzAmerican_Airlines_767-200_N324AA.jpg





hmmmmmmm professional witness testimony\statements you say!:D
 
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Retired Member southey

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hahahahahaha YAY! my dads better than your dad! no your wrong the planes were not grey you are not just mistaken but wrong, I fear this is another one of those things where you say i have a closed mind, Oh well have a nice day:)
 

Retired Member southey

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I have corrected my earlier post, but not removed anything(or did I woooooo) hahaha this is the livery i wanted so I fact Hillbill you are right on one thing, PART of the aircraft was infact grey! because it was the paint scheme of UA!

United-Airlines-R_jpg_630x463_pad-black_upscale_q85.jpg


My sincere apologies for being so monumentally crazy to put a wrong pic!(or am I)
 

HillBill

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Where have i ever said anyone has a closed mind? Where have i ever called anyone sheeple? I don't do that mate. The reason i dont do that is because i dont believe that. :)

hahahahahaha YAY! my dads better than your dad! no your wrong the planes were not grey you are not just mistaken but wrong, I fear this is another one of those things where you say i have a closed mind, Oh well have a nice day:)
 

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