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StarCocoon Hammock Sleepng Bag".

Discussion in 'Group Buys' started by wanderinstar, Apr 19, 2008.

  1. wanderinstar

    wanderinstar On a new journey

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    New product, new name.
    Right an all enveloping bag that combines the qualities of the underblanket and quilt. It will be made from same materials as U/B and quilt.But the insulation will be Softie 6 instead of Softie 9. It will however have Reflectatherm built in to bring it back up to same spec but lighter. It will have 2 loops at each end to fasten to hammock rings. The top closure will be by full length zip. The zip will be able to zip down from the top and up from the bottom. So leaving an adjustable size hole for your face.
    It should be lighter than U/B and Quilt combined.
    Well that is the spec. Will be contacting Snugpak next week for a sample and cost.

    Anyone interested?
     
  2. Aliwren

    Aliwren Nomad

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    Im not sure I understand how this works. Does the 'underblanket' base still go beneath the hammock meaning that the hammock is passed through the cocoon or does the whole cocoon go above the hammock similar to a sleeping bag?

    If passed through wouldn't the edges of the hammock hold the top blanket away from you creating a space and affecting heat retention?
     
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    I believe this will go both under and over the hammock as in a Cocoon, acting as underblanket and quilt.

    Due to the height of the sides of the hammock I would have thought it would be possible to get another bag in if you needed and if not then have extra room in the summer. It would also mean you could get dressed in the warmth of the cocoon.

    A great alround idea that I will watch with interest, the biggest factor for me will be the price tag
     
  4. widu13

    widu13 Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)

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    I've not got any imagination so would need to see a piccy!
     
  5. wanderinstar

    wanderinstar On a new journey

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    Dougster, you have the idea. Will have to be careful with width measurements, as this will obviously mean it will be too tight or have too much room above . But still air is an insulator and with the Reflectatherm it should make it quite toasty. In deep winter you could also use your u.b and quilt inside. But I MEAN deep winter.
     
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    Ian, sounds interesting, couple of things, you say the zips will allow you to create a hole for your face, if the top of the cuccoon is above the sides of the hammock are you going to be able to put your face through it, won't it be too far away and if left zipped closed would the material breath or is condensation likely to build up inside in winter. not citisizing just want to get a better picture of the finished product.
     
  7. Mirius

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    I'm interested in this, though since I'm a hammock virgin I'll need to wait until at least next weekend when I can make a complete fool of myself attempting to put it up to know how well it'll suit me.
     
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    Sounds interesting Ian,I look forward to seeing how this developes.Good luck with it and thanks for the work you put in for the rest of us.
    Litefoot:)
     
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    Alan,
    If the zip is left closed, you will get condensation inside. The idea of it opening from the middle is to accommodate different heights and sleeping positions.I have seen one of these zips on a certain hammock. The idea is to have a hole above your face, not have your face stuck out. You would get cold choppers that way.
     
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    right, got a better idea of what you mean now ian, will keep a close eye on this, could be just the ticket to reducing my kit weight.
     
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    So, will it be a little bit like an extra-wide underblanket that you can zip the sides together to make a cocoon in colder weather?
     
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    Oooh - succinct. Nicely put.
     
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    Basically, yes. But with the added bonus of Reflectatherm for that bit extra.
     
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    Thanks for explaining sounds a great idea!
     
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    widu13 Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)

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    I'm getting it now. I take it those hammocks with mossie nets would either have to be reversed or the net slept on?
     
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    Yes, thats right I'm afraid. Seperate mozzie net ala Magikelly would be needed.
     
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    SimonM Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)

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    Sounds like a good idea Ian. Sadly I won't be able to use it with my Hennesey.....

    So if anybody has an underblanket & quilt combo and wants to sell it now that there is an alternative ...... drop me a PM!

    Simon
     
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    The good thing is when it's cold enough that you'd need to use it, you don't need a mossie net.

    Will be very interested in seeing the end design.
     
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    Wanderingstar
    Interested but sadly my Henessy precludes!
    Good luck with the project.
    Alan



    PS the built in ridge line is the problem really, not the mosquito net, so I can't "reverse" it
     

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