Land access: What is a reasonable price to pay?
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Come along to the amazing Summer Moot (21st July - 2nd August), a festival of bushcrafting and camping in a beautiful woodland PLEASE CLICK HERE for more information.
Dunno what numbers you might get and a group booking might be less than you could get from loads of individual bookings, but much less hassle dealing with one group than loads of individuals, less chance of problems and probably less cleanup after.
For those that like their bushcraft organised & can or are prepared to pay, then this sort of thing sounds right up their alley...
For those that like their bushcraft organised & can or are prepared to pay, then this sort of thing sounds right up their alley...
The woodlands are managed, but the Bushcraft area would only be lighty managed ready - it's a woodland and that's how we want it to stay!
Hmmm, would the people using your bushcraft facilities be allowed to wander out side the alloted area ?.........What is the woodland managed for exactly, the timber industry, hunting ?
widu13
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Yes, the wider woodland is there to walk around and enjoy, it's managed for public recreation!
Wild camping is fine, it's a case of do you have permission to be in and or camp in that wild place...
uppy_dog......is it a sort of woodland park.?On private land, tresspass I would imagine & on public land (national parks,commons etc.) it often falls into the byelaws.
I'd pay a tenner a night for the right place, and as Bucks is the next county to where I am then why not. How large is the area in question.
TurboGirl
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
And Martyn too
Unfortunately fire isn't fabulous- you're talking about a largish, sodden mass, which a cover would burn off leaving the contents for the consideration of everyone around the fire. Personally I'd feel uncomfortable about both this and cooking on the fire subsequently and I wouldn't dream of exposing the kind and helpful chaps from the meets that I've been to, to the potential embaressment. A waste fire is the only way really and it has to burn a fair time, with a fair amount of heat, to fully dispose of used sanitary wear.
Scavenging animals are likely to dig for such a pungent blood smell if buried and if you're considering a toilet, you'll make yourself much more attractive to family groups by suppyling a disposal bin. I hope this helps and hasn't offended
As soon as I can announce details I'll post here, but for the moment I've been asked to keep location under wraps - sorry 
Thank you all for your interest, comments and support - all very much appreciated.
Thank you all for your interest, comments and support - all very much appreciated.
And Martyn too
Unfortunately fire isn't fabulous- you're talking about a largish, sodden mass, which a cover would burn off leaving the contents for the consideration of everyone around the fire. Personally I'd feel uncomfortable about both this and cooking on the fire subsequently and I wouldn't dream of exposing the kind and helpful chaps from the meets that I've been to, to the potential embaressment. A waste fire is the only way really and it has to burn a fair time, with a fair amount of heat, to fully dispose of used sanitary wear.
Scavenging animals are likely to dig for such a pungent blood smell if buried and if you're considering a toilet, you'll make yourself much more attractive to family groups by suppyling a disposal bin. I hope this helps and hasn't offended
Certainly helps with planning and has not offended - thank you.
widu13
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Exactly, trespass is a civil tort and breaching a byelaw is not "illegal".
Why not? Bylaws are created under statutes and the breach of the statute is illegal. They can be prosecuted in a magistrates court and leave you with a criminal conviction. Is that illegal enough?
I would add theft and criminal damage to the laws broken if you have a fire. The wood in my woodland is owned by me and I don't give permission to others to burn it.
How would you like me to pitch up in your garden sleep on your lawn and burn your resources?
How would you like me to pitch up in your garden sleep on your lawn and burn your resources?
widu13
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
You may be convicted in a magistrates but breaching a byelaw is NOT a recordable offence and therefore not a criminal conviction. You will not be summons on the 1st breach of a byelaw as you cannot be expected to know every byelaw in every parish.
Much rubbish is spoken about wildcamping.
David, the fire wood issue should be considered in great detail. You will be very suprised at how much wood one person can get through keeping a small fire going for a day. I used to run weekend events and ship in tons of old pallets for people to burn, along with no restriction on using the wood on the forest floor. After the event it would take about a year for the woodland to recover. Portaloos, rubbish collection and mains water was also provided. You will need to monitor it very carefully and maybe be prepared to deal with axe carrying, knife wielding drunks. Be aware that once a location is known you may get other "visitors". We had equipment stolen and people using the wood uninvited.
I dont want to sound too negative, but I can only offer comment from my own experience. I think that what you are planning is a great idea and I hope it works out. I wish you the best of luck.
I dont want to sound too negative, but I can only offer comment from my own experience. I think that what you are planning is a great idea and I hope it works out. I wish you the best of luck.
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