I need a goretex mid-thigh length jacket anyone know a good one suitable for mountain walking in scotland during winter, non camo, prefer a solid colour olive / green.
Price under £100 ish
Thanks
Price under £100 ish
Thanks
Recommend a Gore tex Jacket ?
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I bought a Berghaus sullivan from Go outdoors, it was £99 down from £200. It is almost identical to an older Berghaus that i had which has just given up the ghost. Have had a few jackets over the last 18 months and this knocks socks off all of em.
Look at eVent. Rab Bergen is one. I have a Montane Superfly XT and they are superb.
Ooops - blew the budget a bit.
Ooops - blew the budget a bit.
I have a Austrian Army Surplus M65 Goretex. I am happy with it and it has a really good price!
http://cgi.ebay.nl/AUSTRIAN-GORETEX...Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item2a043a174d
http://cgi.ebay.nl/AUSTRIAN-GORETEX...Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item2a043a174d
I live in the N E Highlands of Scotland and normally wear a Haglöfs Lim Ultimate Jacket, it uses Gore-Tex Paclite. I've never felt the need for anything more than this when used as a protective layer worn over the top of a decent base layer, a 100 Polartec fleece and a good mid layer, my mid layer is normally some sort of lightweight softshell.
Anything more than this is simply just too hot (for me anyway)! Of course, you won't go wrong by taking a light down jacket to wear underneath the shell when you're sitting around for a while.
Anything more than this is simply just too hot (for me anyway)! Of course, you won't go wrong by taking a light down jacket to wear underneath the shell when you're sitting around for a while.
A few suggestions from my own experiences.
Dutch Army surplus "goretex" (not actually branded goretex but a goretex clone) DPM jacket at 40-70 pounds depending on condition. Excellent but quite heavy and you have to like wearing DPM, and you don't. I used to have one and my only gripe was the cotton-type hood lining. Very nice to start with until it gets wet then it stays that way for days.
Apart from that you will be on quite basic jacket designs for 100 pounds new, unless you find an absolute bargain in the sales as above. An entry level goretex jacket full price would be the Berghaus Paclite jacket at about £100. Not really a winter jacket.
Doubling the budget you get to a Mountain Equipment Ogre, which most reviewers agree is the business for all year round, fairly light and there is a grey version. If walking for several days you would appreciate the lightness of the Ogre in your pack. I have one.
Add another hundred and you get a Norrona Recon, heavy and bulky but superb quality and tough and green of course...I also have one of these but usually reach for the Ogre.
If you step outside goretex you will find cheaper jackets, such as the Montane Atomic. This is made of good old Entrant, been around since the 80s, which is ok up to a point but probably won't be a reliable as goretex. Another option is Event, more breathable than goretex, almost as waterproof and slightly cheaper. Rab do some Event jackets.
NS
Dutch Army surplus "goretex" (not actually branded goretex but a goretex clone) DPM jacket at 40-70 pounds depending on condition. Excellent but quite heavy and you have to like wearing DPM, and you don't. I used to have one and my only gripe was the cotton-type hood lining. Very nice to start with until it gets wet then it stays that way for days.
Apart from that you will be on quite basic jacket designs for 100 pounds new, unless you find an absolute bargain in the sales as above. An entry level goretex jacket full price would be the Berghaus Paclite jacket at about £100. Not really a winter jacket.
Doubling the budget you get to a Mountain Equipment Ogre, which most reviewers agree is the business for all year round, fairly light and there is a grey version. If walking for several days you would appreciate the lightness of the Ogre in your pack. I have one.
Add another hundred and you get a Norrona Recon, heavy and bulky but superb quality and tough and green of course...I also have one of these but usually reach for the Ogre.
If you step outside goretex you will find cheaper jackets, such as the Montane Atomic. This is made of good old Entrant, been around since the 80s, which is ok up to a point but probably won't be a reliable as goretex. Another option is Event, more breathable than goretex, almost as waterproof and slightly cheaper. Rab do some Event jackets.
NS
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well i thought i would put my two penneth in, i unfortunatly agree with Nonsuch, for a oner you'll only get a very basic goretex jacket / coat unless you strike lucky somewhere.
personally i used to use ex military kit, but although cheaper it is usually issued kit, even if it is grade one. i would say save a few pennies and ask father christmas nicely if he would contribute towards a more expensive one. i have had a SWAZI TAHR anorak for a year or two now and is the best investment i ever made, it wasn't cheap mind and i got mine before the exchange rate went sideways, but it is the only 3/4 length ''waterproof'' coat i have ever had that has been 100% waterproof, especially as it's triple layer goretex.
good luck with your purchase, but i would stongly recommend looking aroud on the net and forums, especially look at overseas stuff as it's well worth it.
personally i used to use ex military kit, but although cheaper it is usually issued kit, even if it is grade one. i would say save a few pennies and ask father christmas nicely if he would contribute towards a more expensive one. i have had a SWAZI TAHR anorak for a year or two now and is the best investment i ever made, it wasn't cheap mind and i got mine before the exchange rate went sideways, but it is the only 3/4 length ''waterproof'' coat i have ever had that has been 100% waterproof, especially as it's triple layer goretex.
good luck with your purchase, but i would stongly recommend looking aroud on the net and forums, especially look at overseas stuff as it's well worth it.
Keela Munro. Used by most mountain rescue teams, about £150 notes and they do it in Olive and Black.....
http://www.keela.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=180
http://www.keela.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=180
Better !! it's called SDP and here is the "science bit".. http://www.keela.co.uk/index.php?main_page=page&id=14
I think you mean here's the science and marketing bit....
So apart from not being goretex and GBP 50 over 'budget' it fits the requirements perfectly...
I can stretch my budget a little bit, I'm tempted to get the Keela jacket for use in the Cairngorms starting this November, will the fabric be inferior to gore tex ? the only water proofs I've used are cheap ones for under £20 and a poncho tarp in the woods and the lake district, I'm fed up with being hot and sweating using crap
Hi,
Opinions on breatheable materials in water resistant jackets are wide and varied.
Some say Goretex is rubbish, Some say it's ok. Some swear by Paramo for example, some swear at it, other folks favour Ventile etc...
There is a heap of opinion here on the forum on Waterproof fabrics. Equally if you visit manufacturers sites there is a lot of marketing information on specific fabrics and why you should run with that fabric.
The simple truth is there is no jacket that is perfectly breatheable and waterproof, like a lot of things in life it's a compromise. More so if you are on a budget...
If it's any help to you. I've had good service ( 17++ years) out of a Berghaus Alpine Extrem for Mountaineering and a Berghaus Lightning for Bush / Hill walking stuff. Both are still leak free, haven't delaminated and the seam taping is still good. Both were made in the UK back in the day and used a 3 layer Goretex Taslan fabric IIRC they get washed when needed and I occasionally redo the DWR finish on the face fabric.
I'm sure the Keela jacket will be fine also. Keela stuff has a very good reputation.
HTH
John
I have a Keela Munro. It is a full on mountain jacket with all the technical features, adjustable mountain hood, pit zips etc. It is a good jacket for autumn and winter but it is heavy and warm for a shell jacket. I don't use it in the spring/summer for this reason.
You can get a Munro on Amazon for much less than the RRP of £150.
You can get a Munro on Amazon for much less than the RRP of £150.
Depends if it is the latest one with the pockets or the shell sans pockets. New one is ok to wear and a wee bit roomier, have dallied between them and prefer the new one.
i have one of the earlier goretex issue smocks, it's got 2 chest pockets that button as per smock pockets, and a huge wired arctic hood with a clever adjuster on the back. the build quality is absolutely bombproof. it has taken some very heavy rain without issues.
my only gripe is, it has no lower hand pockets, which, i understand why they aren't there, but in the hands of a civvy could do with them, i understand the latest ones have lower pockets.
but....like the look of that keela munro! good price and good features. what can i sell......
my only gripe is, it has no lower hand pockets, which, i understand why they aren't there, but in the hands of a civvy could do with them, i understand the latest ones have lower pockets.
but....like the look of that keela munro! good price and good features. what can i sell......
here is a link to an issue item like mine, different pockets, these ones are velcro closed but i think ther are the same spec otherwise. i got a 180/112 and it's gagantuan and i easily have room inside for multiple layers and duvet jacket if needed. (i wear a 180/104 or 112 and am a 42 to 44 chest mince pie dependant, and am 6 foot 1 tall if you need a size guide.)
https://www.dragonsupplies.co.uk/catalogue/871-Goretex-Jacket-SALE
https://www.dragonsupplies.co.uk/catalogue/871-Goretex-Jacket-SALE
UK DPM goretx jackets are very good, I had one for years and never let in abit of water, if you have a £100 though i would splash out on something abit posher and look at a Berghaus Cornice, its a good quality outer shell, you will see allot of them on the hills!!
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