uk poisonus plants

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RAPPLEBY2000

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Dec 2, 2003
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not sure about poison strength but "Giant Hogweed" has sap that will burn your skin!:eek:
I know a guy that has big scars on his chest from when he was strimming giant hogweed in a t-shirt and jeans.

it's quite common around mine and the council spray it before it gets too big!
 

firecrest

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Mar 16, 2008
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Incidentally I sat reading "britains poisonous plants" today for 6 hours whilst at work. (yes my job is to do nothing all day!)
It said water dropwort was the most poisonous, followed by monkshood (wolfsbane) It then went on to list their traditional and modern medicinal usages!
 

Toddy

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Jan 21, 2005
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Was that a book or a website Lindsay ?

I'm pretty sure it's Hemlock Water Dropwort that's the most poisonous, followed by Monkshood, then I think it's some of the fungi.........mostly 'cos they kill your liver I think.

cheers,
Toddy
 

Mikey P

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Nov 22, 2003
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Incidentally I sat reading "britains poisonous plants" today for 6 hours whilst at work. (yes my job is to do nothing all day!)
It said water dropwort was the most poisonous, followed by monkshood (wolfsbane) It then went on to list their traditional and modern medicinal usages!

I want that job!

PS - Is that one of your paintings/drawings in the latest issue of 'Bushcraft & Survival Magazine'? There's a page talking about the next issue and it looks like one of yours in the background.
 

firecrest

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I want that job!

PS - Is that one of your paintings/drawings in the latest issue of 'Bushcraft & Survival Magazine'? There's a page talking about the next issue and it looks like one of yours in the background.

Is it?? I must go get the mag for a look-see.
I did indeed submit an article to them which they said they would be printing in the nov/dec issue.

ps - reading a book on poisonous plants , watching a woman go round on a bicycle all day whilst asking for Noel Edmunds wears a bit thin after 2 years:eek:
 

stevesteve

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Dec 11, 2006
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We used to grow Ricinis communis (Castor Oil Plant) as an ornamental in the Middle East, that's as poisonous as it gets in the wrong hands.

I know where Spamel is coming from - Institution sprouts do something nasty to me!

Cheers,
Steve
 

tjwuk

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Apr 4, 2009
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I think the most poisonous things are the ones we are allergic to. Take tomatoes, parts of them can be pretty deadly! And afterall, if you have anaphylactic shock it can kill faster than any funghi, or hemlock.
 

Broch

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Jan 18, 2009
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In the UK Hemlock without a doubt - it was good enough for Socratese. Because it attacks the nervous system it effectively just shuts the body down.

My wayout as planned.

Broch
 

Siberianfury

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In the UK Hemlock without a doubt - it was good enough for Socratese. Because it attacks the nervous system it effectively just shuts the body down.

My wayout as planned.

Broch

the curiousity comes from when i wonder if our anchestors living in the neolithic period used poison on their arrows/ spears to increase their hunting effectivness.
 

troy ap De skog

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May 30, 2005
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well water hemlock: >5g of leaf, >3g of stem and >0.7g of root, death in under 36hr

monkshood: >4g of leaf, >4g of stem, >1.5 of root and 2.5 of flowers, death in under 36hr

measured at a highly leathal dosage for an 80kg man
 

Siberianfury

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Jan 1, 1970
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mendip hills, somerset
well water hemlock: >5g of leaf, >3g of stem and >0.7g of root, death in under 36hr

monkshood: >4g of leaf, >4g of stem, >1.5 of root and 2.5 of flowers, death in under 36hr

measured at a highly leathal dosage for an 80kg man

so what would the most poisonus part of the hemlock be, the root?
also how do you think that would equate to a concentrated ammount around the size of a tea spoon would effect a 20kg roe deer.
there is a theory of neolithic hunters using poison arrows, it would be interesting if that theory was phesable.
 

falling rain

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Oct 17, 2003
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Blimey there's lot's of poisonous plants, trees and funghi

Hemlock and hemlock water dropwort, as mentioned, different plants but both umbels, foxglove, Lily of the valley, lords and ladies (arum). Henbane and deadly nightshade contain hyoscine,scopoamine and others that attack the central nervous system, and cause delirium, convulsions and blurred vision and can lead to death, funnily enough deadly nightshade is a member of the potato family. Dog mercury, guelder rose, yew, all poisonous. Some are caustic like the spurges sap and giant hogweed and I can testify very well that arum leaves will burn your mouth. I once mistook a young arum leaf for common sorrel and took a luckily small taste, it really was caustic and burnt my mouth. :eek: Fools parsley, another umbel that contains coniine (same as hemlock)
Death cap, panther cap, fly agaric, devil's boletes.....etc
Some plants poisons can be neutralised by heat (cooking).
It would be interesting to compile a list of the plants/trees/funghi to avoid, and maybe the nasty chemicals they contain and symptoms if ingested or touched. Might be an interesting thread.

About 4 years ago I remember reading somewhere some bloke committed suicide by eating foxglove leaves.
 

rawshak

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Jan 11, 2009
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not sure about poison strength but "Giant Hogweed" has sap that will burn your skin!:eek:
I know a guy that has big scars on his chest from when he was strimming giant hogweed in a t-shirt and jeans.

it's quite common around mine and the council spray it before it gets too big!

You can actually eat the young shoots of Hogweed (cooked like asparagus), the sap can be very reactive to certain people, and unreactive to others. A point of warning though, it reacts much more severely if it's exposed to strong sunlight, so if you do get a reaction, keep the area covered until you can remove the sap, or you will get much more severely burned.

Oh, and the seeds are the most poisonous part of Hemlock Water Dropwort
 

falling rain

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Oct 17, 2003
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Woodbury Devon
You can actually eat the young shoots of Hogweed (cooked like asparagus), the sap can be very reactive to certain people, and unreactive to others. A point of warning though, it reacts much more severely if it's exposed to strong sunlight, so if you do get a reaction, keep the area covered until you can remove the sap, or you will get much more severely burned.

Oh, and the seeds are the most poisonous part of Hemlock Water Dropwort

Careful with that.

Hogweed (heracleum sphondylium) and giant hogweed (heracleum mantegazzianum) are different plants. They both contain the volatile substance that can blister the skin in strong sunlight, but the giant hogweed has more of it. I think it's the shoots of the hogweed (heracleum sphondylium) that can be eaten. Not sure about the shoots of the giant hogweed.

This is an intersting article on dodgy plants http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/3317230/Everything-in-the-garden-isnt-lovely.html
 

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