Government to take away your ability to buy vitamins

[gregorach]

Wanna bet? They are voluntary until december, watch the vid. It is by Dr Rima Laibow, and the panel of nutritional experts. If you want to sell food after december then it is mandatory standards. It was guidlines since 1962.

That would be the same Dr Rima Laibow who is even regarded by others in the so-called "alternative health movement" as a dangerous lunatic who makes completely false and unfounded statements on this subject? The same Dr Rima Laibow who has also frequently appeared with (and is married to) the gloriously insane Maj. Gen. Albert Stubblebine III (famed for his involvement with the notorious Stargate Project)? The same Dr Rima Laibow who apparently thinks that "[The] U.S. Government Considers The U.S.A. Constitution Terrorist Literature?

Yep, nice reliable source. Sure.

 

[BorderReiver]

That would be the same Dr Rima Laibow who is even regarded by others in the so-called "alternative health movement" as a dangerous lunatic who makes completely false and unfounded statements on this subject? The same Dr Rima Laibow who has also frequently appeared with (and is married to) the gloriously insane Maj. Gen. Albert Stubblebine III (famed for his involvement with the notorious Stargate Project)? The same Dr Rima Laibow who apparently thinks that "[The] U.S. Government Considers The U.S.A. Constitution Terrorist Literature?

Yep, nice reliable source. Sure.

Aw come on, stop using facts.

You're not playing fair.

 

[HillBill]

You can use facts about her all you like. Only thing is though, shes not the only person saying it. Also does not prove her wrong now does it. Just proves she's different from all the others who say what they are told. ( yes they do you know)

I'm having no further part in this thread, usual set of arguments with usual people, sorry. Nothing any of us say will actually make either of it true or false. It will be what it will be.

If it does go bad then i doubt you will have a plan. You obviously believe that the powers that be do not want to reduce the population drastically. if you do know about the pop reduction yet argue the toss then that defies wisdom, if you don't then you are so naive as to not be taken seriously.

 

[Tadpole]

Wanna bet? They are voluntary until december, watch the vid. It is by Dr Rima Laibow, and the panel of nutritional experts. If you want to sell food after december then it is mandatory standards. It was guidlines since 1962.

Not only does it become law, but INTERNATIONAL LAW. You need to stop googling stuff and get some proper info Tad.

The only thing that is happening with regards to this Codex is on the 31/12/09 the following chemicals are being withdrawn from use by the FSA.

lithium orotate, (a dietary supplement used in small doses to treat conditions including stress, manic depression, alcoholism)
Potassium salicylate
Sodium salicylate. NSAID

para-amino benzoic acid. UV sunblock withdrawn as it cause skin cancer
glucosamine sulphate potassium chloride.

These will be added to the 70 odd other chemicals that are no longer allowed to be added to your food.

Dr Rima Laibow a Quack who is not even respected by her own side.

Hill you need to stop listening to the voices and start googling. You’ll sleep better knowing the truth rather than listening to the tinfoil brigade’s paranoia.

I'm having no further part in this thread, usual set of arguments with usual people, sorry. Nothing any of us say will actually make either of it true or false. It will be what it will be.

But yes we can, the truth is the truth no matter how many twists and turns you make to avoid it. It is true, and ignoring it just well makes you look somewhat silly.
According to reliable populations studies, the population growth will peak and then fall naturally, once it gets passed 9 billion in 2050 it will fall to below the current level by 2100

 

[BorderReiver]

Tadpole, I'm surprised at the inclusion of PABA in the list. It is a precursor to folic acid and as such is an essential part of the diet.

 

[Tadpole]

Tadpole, I'm surprised at the inclusion of PABA in the list. It is a precursor to folic acid and as such is an essential part of the diet.

I think that it's been removed because of the damaged it can do to the skin, when applied tropically
Edit, they have been removed from the FSA and classified as medicinal by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency

 

[HillBill]

Tadpole, I'm surprised at the inclusion of PABA in the list. It is a precursor to folic acid and as such is an essential part of the diet.

Oh, your starting to see the bigger picture now eh. As in we do not have access to healthy substances freely.

 

[Draven]

Oh, your starting to see the bigger picture now eh. As in we do not have access to healthy substances freely.

In humans, PABA is normally made by E. coli[2] in the colon and therefore PABA from food is not normally essential to human health.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Aminobenzoic_acid

Para-aminobenzoic acid (PABA) is a B Complex vitamin that is synthesized in the body.

http://www.oralchelation.com/ingred/paba.htm

People who look for problems always find them. So I daresay they're saying it's naturally produced in the body as a cunning ploy to convince us that we don't need to take it in by food?

 

[HillBill]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Aminobenzoic_acid


http://www.oralchelation.com/ingred/paba.htm

People who look for problems always find them. So I daresay they're saying it's naturally produced in the body as a cunning ploy to convince us that we don't need to take it in by food?

Same with things like cannabis. Cannabinoids are produced naturally, our bodys have cannabinoid receptors that when activated by the THC in cannabis make our body healthier and much more efficient and prolong life. Thats why it is illegal.( nothing to do with mexicans working long hours).

 

[gregorach]

Lol try 1320 as ordered by the pope.

Pope John XXII formalized the persecution of witchcraft in 1320 when he authorized the Inquisition to prosecute sorcery. [8]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_Hunt#Middle_Ages

Yes, but they didn't actually do much about it at that time. You should've read a little further:

Inquisitorial courts became systematically involved in the witch-hunt only in the 15th century
...

The period of witch trials in Early Modern Europe came in waves and then subsided. There were early trials in the 15th and early 16th centuries, but then the witch scare went into decline, before becoming a big issue again and peaking in the 17th century.

[My emphasis]

None of which speaks to witch-hunting in Britain, where it only came to prominence under the guidance of Matthew Hopkins in 1645. Yet we had our first major plague outbreak in 1348.

You obviously believe that the powers that be do not want to reduce the population drastically.

Now that is entirely true.

I think we've derailed this already dubious thread sufficiently for now... There's clearly no point in trying to reason with you.

[I would have responsed quicker, but I'm having terrible internet connection right now.]

 

[Glen]

BTW Codex also targets homegrown produce, as in, because the food grown does not comply with codex guidelines it is illegal to grow and consume. You may laugh at this but in december when it becomes LAW you wont be. The home gardner will not be hit immediately but it WILL happen. All enforced by the military.

I'm not sure how you manage to interpret it that way, your interpretation doesn't tie up with recent initiatives to encourage more homegrown food produce.

This is not in place to help us, it is in place to mess our bodies up. Basic jist we starve while filling our faces with nutrient deficient food. The nutrition experts say that it will be the cause of over 3 billion deaths. Ignore them at your peril. Your choice.

I recal hearing, this week infact that, recent studies have found no significant nutritenal differences between organic and factory produced fruit and veg. If you want to argue for home/organic produce on a flavour, lack of pesticides or more holistic enviromental bases you'd be on much more solid ground but for actual nutirient content the research doesn't support your case.

 

[Tadpole]

This is not in place to help us, it is in place to mess our bodies up. Basic jist we starve while filling our faces with nutrient deficient food. The nutrition experts say that it will be the cause of over 3 billion deaths. Ignore them at your peril. Your choice.

WATCH THIS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhON1WN48tQ

This is from the same source that thinks that the Codex is “legalized genocide” and claim it is run by an un-reformed Nazi Despite the fact the person sited died two years before the codex was tabled for the first time.

Dr. Laiblow,

 

[smoggy]

There are some people who will choose to believe anything they are spoon fed by the media, regardless of how rediculous it is, and will then not pay heed to those who know better and try to enlighten them, regardless of how much genuine evidence is offered.

There lies the difference twixt those who are intellegent and those who are gullible!

( by the way the word "gullible" does not appear in any dictionary!)

Smoggy

 

[armie]

Indeed...

I found
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/vitamins.asp
and
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/klaxon.htm
very informative.

 

[HillBill]

I'm not sure how you manage to interpret it that way, your interpretation doesn't tie up with recent initiatives to encourage more homegrown food produce.



I recal hearing, this week infact that, recent studies have found no significant nutritenal differences between organic and factory produced fruit and veg. If you want to argue for home/organic produce on a flavour, lack of pesticides or more holistic enviromental bases you'd be on much more solid ground but for actual nutirient content the research doesn't support your case.

I'm talking about the new nutritional "guidelines" that come with codex. food HAS to be produced to codex standards and have in it exactly what codex says. Not good according to nutritionists.

Codex states all food consumed must abide by codex. Homegrown does not, unless you alter it to their standard or buy GM seed

 

[HillBill]

This is from the same source that thinks that the Codex is “legalized genocide” and claim it is run by an un-reformed Nazi Despite the fact the person sited died two years before the codex was tabled for the first time.

Dr. Laiblow,

Just for your Info. Many high ranking people of today were in the nazi party, for example, the pope, prince phillip, walt disney, werner von braun (heads NASA) etc etc etc.

Also the american government( clintons especially) are supporters of eugenics, a nazi thing again.

 

[Lurch]

Um, Walt Disney is dead. Has been for a while now, kinda rules him out of the high ranking people of today list.

 

[Glen]

I'm talking about the new nutritional "guidelines" that come with codex. food HAS to be produced to codex standards and have in it exactly what codex says. Not good according to nutritionists.

I can see how some might interpret it to applying to say apple sauce ( added ingredients like even including water ) but not to say an apple.

Codex states all food consumed must abide by codex. Homegrown does not, unless you alter it to their standard or buy GM seed

Wouldn't work for GM seed either, as the final produce will be a product of genetic and enviroment, light levels and exposure length, water and nutrient avalability etc, so still can't see it being possibly to apply to say a hydroponically grown GM apple.

 

[rancid badger]

Same with things like cannabis. Cannabinoids are produced naturally, our bodys have cannabinoid receptors that when activated by the THC in cannabis make our body healthier and much more efficient and prolong life. Thats why it is illegal.( nothing to do with mexicans working long hours).

Dont know about prolonging life and all that, however; I know three people personally, who have suffered severe mental illness due to using cannabis in excessive amounts. Symptoms such as; depression, paranoia,schizophrenia not to mention all the physical issues.

I'm not an expert and have to admit I may well be mistaken but would this stuff being illegal; not be more likely to be down to the fact that it leads to the above problems?

R.B.

 

[johnboy]

Um, Walt Disney is dead. Has been for a while now, kinda rules him out of the high ranking people of today list.

As is Werner Von Braun he died in 1977

Prince Phillip had a reasonable military career in the RN during WW2

Never let the facts get in the way of a good arguement.....