No great mystery then,its Venus.
Cheers chaps
Bit disappointed really,I was looking forward to whacking a few zombies :yikes:
GS
The bright star thats shown up.
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No great mystery then,its Venus.
Cheers chaps
Bit disappointed really,I was looking forward to whacking a few zombies :yikes:
GS
I've got it at 235 degrees at 17.30ish. Not seen it since though due to cloud. Venus it is then.
The other planet is "supposed" to be visible by may.
The other planet is "supposed" to be visible by may.
Well I'm still suffering under cloud - I had a sniff of clear skies the other night but they coulded over again as soon as I was ready to head out for a look.
Now now, be fair - alien zombies
. If the stories of planet x/nibiru are true then the people who come from it ain't going to be zombies.The Sumarians called them the Annunaki Their main city was called E'den according to Sumar legend and the Kings reigned in periods of 3600 years.http://www.livius.org/k/kinglist/sumerian.html
http://www.crystalinks.com/sumergods.html
They were tall ( 9 or 10 feet) and their homeworld was called God. The bible is mostly Sumar copied to keep the stories alive for the future pass of God (nibiru) The bible says God will return. God has been twisted into a man like figure by the church.
Just to say that i am not religous or a bible preacher, but the ancient Sumar texts are all over the bible.
Personally, i am more inclined to believe people who spent a hundred years building a temple or building to hold the carvings and texts on it's walls, than someone who just says it does not exist without any proof to the contrary
That "if" is about as big as the "if" in:
If I somehow gain the power of God I'll make the world a better place...
No offence
You've talked extensively about Planet X and Nibiru. Do you actually have a genuine open mindedness about them, a belief in them or are you joking? It's hard to judge tone via the internet...
Pete
That "if" is about as big as the "if" in:
If I somehow gain the power of God I'll make the world a better place...
No offence
You've talked extensively about Planet X and Nibiru. Do you actually have a genuine open mindedness about them, a belief in them or are you joking? It's hard to judge tone via the internet...
Pete
Lets just say, i believe it is a reasonable assumption to make, that life exists elsewhere and has been here before. The reason i believe this is that for 4000 years all cultures and all civilisations believed in it and went a hell of a long way to document and record the events. Then the bible came along. Now most think it's nonsense and we are led to believe that those cultures were making it up or hallucinating. Plus all the ancient structures etc that we could not even build today. The perfect mathematical allignments of the pyramids of Giza and the mayan and aztec temples. Theres just too much evidence supporting things that we are denying. Time will tell, but yes i do have a genuinely open mind about it.
Not everything is as it seems on this planet mate trust me.
For example in your opinion who do americans pay taxes to? Who owns America? These answers are not public knowledge yet they are true none the less.
I think you'll find that the People's Republic of China owns America (the northern bit that sits below Canada anyway).
more here
Yep, I agree that this is a reasonable assumption.
I don't think this is reasonable at all.
Even going on the distances involved it's a wild assumtion to say alien life has been here.
Unless we're getting into the intelligent-alien-life-in-this-solar-system thing, which I find somewhat far fetched to say the least, if there was a habitable moon orbiting our nearest (non solar system) planet, it would take prohibitively long to get from there to here.
The nearest place which might even concievably hold life is 10.5 light years away - unless we consider daft sci-fi notions like warp drives and assume some alien species had managed to get fissionable material safely into space (they would face the same problems with that as we do here on Earth in that repsect) and develop fission based propulsion, it would take them well over 100 years to get here.
If they set out as adults they would have to live an incredibly long time to get here, communicate with us and get back with the information.
Such as?
I'm going to guess you mean the pyramids, we most certainly could build those today with the same available metals, tools and manpower (that last point is key).
Perfect allignment is not unattributable to a purely human endeavour.
Assuming you mean the federal income tax... they pay taxes to a privately owned (non-federal) bank called the Federal Reserve Bank. That same bank owns America, issues its (debased) currency and has done for many years now.
Unless you're hinting at some crazy conspiracy theory of the type championed by Icke.
While I'm completely open to the idea of intelligant extra-terrestrial life, the idea it has been to earth and interacted with us simply does not make sense. I've yet to see evidence of alien interaction with humans or alien activity that could not be attributed entirely to human activity and endeavour.
I think you'll find that the People's Republic of China owns America (the northern bit that sits below Canada anyway).
more here
The bottom link does seem like China will have some influence.
But, this may be hard to believe ( i can prove it). The US is owned by good old Queen Elizebeth the 2nd and the HM Treasury and always has been.Well, the financial and economic parts, the military is owned and controlled by someone else. They pay their taxes to her through the IRS.
Whether it's reasonable or not, and I don't think it is anyway, I certainly think it's unreasonable to assume that any reference to something coming down from the sky is a reference to Aliens. It's perfectly understandable for the sky to be a fascination. Why? Because they couldn't get to it. It's unexplained and unexplored, by us at least. I for one will always assume poetic license before alien visitors.
We modern people have this truly bizarre and very arrogant feeling that just because we don't know how our ancestors did it must mean that they "cheated" with outside help. Many attempted builds still can't get a trebuchet to work, and most people don't have the foggiest idea that it's not at all difficult to use the sky to align a building north-south, east-west, etc, using nothing but a clear night and some wooden stakes prior to building. See footnote. Similarly, just because most have long since lost the ability to build a structurally sound piece of architecture without machine made bricks and cement does not mean that it wasn't possible for people to do so when they're offered no other choice. I'm not ruling out the possibility of outside help, but I don't think that anything mentioned is proof of it. The reason I asked was mainly because Nibiru falls pretty far outside the field of science. I'd resent it being put in such high regard as "pseudoscience" even..
Pete
Big Shot, It isn't a conspiracy. Who owns the Fed?.
The US department of The Treasury is exactly what it says. It is a department of The Treasury. What Treasury? The US does not have one. There is only 1 The Treasury and it is HM Treasury.
From this page
http://www.ustreas.gov/education/duties/
We get this
The Department of the Treasury's mission highlights its role as the steward of U.S. economic and financial systems, and as an influential participant in the global economy
and this
The Treasury Department is the executive agency responsible for promoting economic prosperity and ensuring the financial security of the United States.
Note the terms steward and executive agency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steward_(office) ( for some reson this wont work ) It says
A steward (from Old English stíweard, stiȝweard, from stiȝ "hall, household" + weard "wikt:warden, keeper"; corresponding to Dutch: stadhouder, German Statthalter "place holder", a Germanic parallel to French lieutenant), means an official who is appointed by the legal ruling monarch to represent him or her in a country, and may have a mandate to govern it in his or her name; in the latter case, it roughly corresponds with the position of governor or deputy (the Roman rector, praefectus or vicarius).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_agency
The US secretary of the treasury and the treasury is therefore an agency of the UK and a representative of the Queen in that country, also on that site it says the US dept of the treasury is responsible for the sale of all public land in the US. So the queens representative can sell any part of the public land it wants, and surely it couldnt do this if it didn't own it?
About the ancient buildings the Baalbek complex in Lebanon has stones that the biggest cranes today could not move.
http://www.sacredsites.com/middle_east/lebanon/images/greatest-baalbek-stones-500.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/atheism/1/0/n/y/2/BaalbekQuarryMegalith.jpg
http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/190426.html
The US department of The Treasury is exactly what it says. It is a department of The Treasury. What Treasury? The US does not have one. There is only 1 The Treasury and it is HM Treasury.
From this page
http://www.ustreas.gov/education/duties/
We get this
The Department of the Treasury's mission highlights its role as the steward of U.S. economic and financial systems, and as an influential participant in the global economy
and this
The Treasury Department is the executive agency responsible for promoting economic prosperity and ensuring the financial security of the United States.
Note the terms steward and executive agency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steward_(office) ( for some reson this wont work ) It says
A steward (from Old English stíweard, stiȝweard, from stiȝ "hall, household" + weard "wikt:warden, keeper"; corresponding to Dutch: stadhouder, German Statthalter "place holder", a Germanic parallel to French lieutenant), means an official who is appointed by the legal ruling monarch to represent him or her in a country, and may have a mandate to govern it in his or her name; in the latter case, it roughly corresponds with the position of governor or deputy (the Roman rector, praefectus or vicarius).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_agency
The US secretary of the treasury and the treasury is therefore an agency of the UK and a representative of the Queen in that country, also on that site it says the US dept of the treasury is responsible for the sale of all public land in the US. So the queens representative can sell any part of the public land it wants, and surely it couldnt do this if it didn't own it?
About the ancient buildings the Baalbek complex in Lebanon has stones that the biggest cranes today could not move.
http://www.sacredsites.com/middle_east/lebanon/images/greatest-baalbek-stones-500.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/atheism/1/0/n/y/2/BaalbekQuarryMegalith.jpg
http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/190426.html
The Sumarians believed it for thousands of years as did the mayans aztecs egyptians etc. Just because they are not here now does not mean they were not once. Evidence and lots of ancient texts say they did.Modern thinking says they didn't. I don't really believe anything officials or government tell me so why should i believe their version.
Why do they need to be moved by cranes?
Why can't they be moved by a few hundred (thousand?) men pulling in unison using any one of a number of plausible friction reducing methods?
You've read that treasury page and seen a couple of lines that say what the treasury's mission is, but no connection made to our (I wish she wasn't) Queen Lizzie. That bit is yours, there's no "therefore" about it.
US Income Tax is paid to the treasury which then pays it to the Fed.
The Fed is owned by private (and semi-private) banks, in turn owned by private individuals.
Not the queen.
Why can't they be moved by a few hundred (thousand?) men pulling in unison using any one of a number of plausible friction reducing methods?
You've read that treasury page and seen a couple of lines that say what the treasury's mission is, but no connection made to our (I wish she wasn't) Queen Lizzie. That bit is yours, there's no "therefore" about it.
US Income Tax is paid to the treasury which then pays it to the Fed.
The Fed is owned by private (and semi-private) banks, in turn owned by private individuals.
Not the queen.
What evidence?
"lots of ancient texts" - vague references to "something" coming down from the sky is NOT evidence, that's not even an eyewitness account. It's absolutely ridiculous to take it to mean aliens just because other cultures talked about similar things, and it's ridiculous to say that just because we don't know how something was done, then it must have been done by aliens. That's just lazy.
What version? I don't recall the government making a great point about Aliens talking to the Sumarians...
That is because they didn't. May i suggest you read up on Sumar and its people. They are not vague references, but detailed accounts from thousands of years of history. They called them the Annanaki- the people who from heaven to earth came.( heaven meaning the heavens, or space to you and me).
Please read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_king_list
The kings served a term named a sar lasting 3600 years, which funnily enough is the time it apparently takes planet x/ nibiru to do a full orbit and pass us
It strikes me as funny that, people will try and emulate past cultures skills and methods of doing things but mock their history and beliefs
Ok Bill I'll bite.
So prove it then, and I mean real proof not a couple of woolly links and your own interpretations/assumptions.
Again not personal but you cant make rash statements like that,and claim it to be fact,without something more substantial by way of proof.
GS
It doesn't matter how detailed they are, you're completely missing the point that you cannot accurately take them at face value. The timescale is irrelevent. Plenty of beliefs last for thousands of years. And again, you're either missing the point in what I said about the sky (which IS space, essentially) or didn't actually read it. The sky always holds a wonder and fascination, and a reverence. We cannot live without the sun in the sky, the moon and clouds are beautiful, rain falls from the sky. It's mundane to us, but what about to people thousands of years ago? People who wouldn't take long to die if they didn't get any rain?
Well, I know that's supposed to seem like wonderful and amazing proof, but considering that there is no scientific basis for believing that Nibiru even exists, never mind has a 3600 year orbit, then it's not really amazing it all. It just means that whoever came up with this Nibiru stuff wanted it to fit together nicely.
It's not uncommon in ancient cultures for a persons age to be considered his own, plus his fathers, and his grandfathers, to whatever point. If they were kings, it would be much more feasible to say that that particular line lasted for that period of time, and the last King in that line had no sons, meaning that a new line began. Then the age of the last king of that line would be considered the age of the line itself. And so on. It's still a stretch, but much of a stretch than assuming they were aliens.
They are not rash statements and if you consider what i showed you and consider the implications of it then you will understand why it isn't public knowledge. The title says it all.
In it's exact wording
US Department of The Treasury
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=us+department+treasury&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
Note how 'of ' is lowercase? It means it is 2 seperate titles US Department and The Treasury
Lets do a search for The Treasury
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=The+Treasury&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
Now lets look for the US Treasury
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=US+Treasury&meta=
There isn't one. Only a Department of.
Also, everything in America is department of, ie. education, defence, justice etc
In the UK everything is ministry of.
So what really is, education, justice, defence etc. Well, they are corporations. Do a search you will find a corp for each one, education inc, justice inc, defence inc, The United States inc ( note america is actually called the United States or the US officially.) and agencies like the CIA and NASA are not actually part of american Gov
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_agencies_of_the_United_States_government
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