The bright star thats shown up.

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HillBill

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Ok, lately i've noticed a new star/planet in the south western sky. Very bright, very large and getting larger,but does not move with the other stars and twinkles red blue and white.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=strange+star+south+sky&meta=

I have done a search on the net and it has been noticed worldwide and there appears to be some speculation about it. I have read that it could be either Venus desending or Jupiter rising.

I'm not convinced. I have never seen anything like it before and it echo's a story i was told last year.

What do other people make of it? Do any of you have a definate answer as to what it is?
 

Shewie

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We saw one last night gazing across Loch Lomond, I think we decided it must have been a satellite or space station.

Interesting
 

HillBill

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So what ws the story that you we told then?

Just something about another planet we would be able to see this year. NASA call it planet X. ( yes sounds all sci fi fantasy stuff) They say there is a planet and they have built a tracker for it in the south pole. That was the direction i read it was approaching from. I was told we would be able to see it by May this year

NASA Press Release 1992

"Unexplained deviations in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune point to a large outer solar system body of 4 to 8 Earth masses, on a highly tilted orbit, beyond 7 billion miles from the sun."

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/29jul_planetx.htm

http://yowusa.com/planetx/2006/planetx-2006-04a/1.shtml

http://www.australia.to/story/0,25197,23040466-937,00,00.html

Note how many apocalyptic films there have been lately? The day after tommorow. 2012 Doomsday, 2012 etc.

Watch this trailer if you will.Watch it to the end as there is a twist i have never ssen on another film before.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1190080/
 

HillBill

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This is extracted from the bottom link i posted dated march 2008 near the bottom.

The title “2012” refers to the date when, according to the Maya calendar, the world as we know it would end. Emmerich’s “Apocalypse” is among the movies about disasters, being similar to the movie “The Day After Tommorow”, an international success from 2004. The film premiered in May, 2004, after “The Observer” had made public a report of Pentagon about the dramatic climatic changes, in February, 2004 (Google: The Observer Pentagon Climate).

Notice that starting with the summer of 2009, the moment of the film’s international premiere, the planet Eris/ Nibiru will be seen in the sky as a slightly red object.



Coincidence???
 

Draven

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If it's not moving in the sky, then it's in a geostationary orbit around earth. Objects in the sky do not just stay still, with exclusions such as the North Star which are on the axis of rotation. You said it's been noticed worldwide, which obviously can't happen if it stays in the same spot, if you meant that it has been noticed optically. How long have you watched it? If you have a telescope, or just a spotting scope, it's much easier to see if it's moving by centering it and leaving it for a few hours to see if it stays in the middle.

If it's Venus or Jupiter, I like to think that most astronomers could tell in about thirty seconds, given that my dad (an amateur astrophotographer) could :confused: If it was a known astronomical body it would be easy to find out once, if you have a telescope you can plug into your computer. Speaking of, I just went to dad and we checked with the starmap on his computer, which lets you do a sped-up runthrough of objects moving across the sky. Where we are, jupiter drops below the horizon before the sun sets and will only be visible for a short time, barely above the horizon before sunrise. Venus drops out of view at about 9pm. With either though, movement should be noticeable if you look at it more than once in an evening/morning.

And a planet that size wouldn't be visible to the naked eye from that distance, either...

For the record, I'm not trying to be an *** I just think there's some clarification necessary...
Pete
 
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If it's not moving in the sky, then it's in a geostationary orbit around earth. Objects in the sky do not just stay still

To be fair HillBill didn't say it wasn't moving but that it "does not move with the other stars".

Not that I'm buying HillBill's end of the world take on things :)
 

Draven

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To be fair HillBill didn't say it wasn't moving but that it "does not move with the other stars"

Not that I'm buying his end of the world take on things :)

Touche, that wasn't said. But still, there's probably about a hollow snowballs chance in hell that it would be moving fast enough and in the right direction (assuming it wasn't orbiting earth, or veery close) to overcome the direction and speed of "travel" we percieve due to the earth's rotation :p
 

HillBill

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I agree, which is why i posted the thread as i have never seen anything like it before. Look at it for yourself, i see it nearly every night. It may well be venus or jupiter. It just struck me as odd with the dates and the info i have provided. Planet X is there and according to official sources will be visible in the northern hemisphere before May this year. This thing is BIG and bright, like a mini moon with a big glow., i normally just have a look when im out. I hope it is Venus or Jupiter.

Found a couple of vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oilS4JHQsUo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJC83-Z1rsQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svWj3SxPWVc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG-BKLr57P8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v-K9uBmqqQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bWq6wWQixc&feature=related
 

HillBill

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Not that I'm buying his end of the world take on things :)

I don't buy into that either or the world would have ended the first time it passed. It flys by every 3600 years. Depending on it's position relative to the earth the effects are varied. Athough earth changes do happen. The flood to which the story of noah was attached (note i said "story of") was apperently caused by its passing. as well as other events throughout history. Its passing can be severe or mild, we are still here. So end of world no, changes then yes.

BTW the Governments the world over are building underground cities. I also heard that the Dutch know about it. That was on fox news

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OldrSyHF-34

Note how it goes funny partway through it when they explain why they are doing it.
 

lostagain

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Run for the hills !!!!! :bye:

Now then, if we have 3 years to pack, what would you take and what would be the ideal grind for your bushcraft knife in the event of an end of the world type of day? :sad6: :yelrotflm
 

Draven

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZetaTalk

Bits of that are worth reading :rolleyes:

Also see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eris_(dwarf_planet)

According to that, is about 27% larger than pluto and doesn't come closer than 37.9AU (astronomical units - 37.9 times farther from the sun than earth is) which is too far to see with the naked eye. As the wikipedia states, some (not all!) amateur astronomers may see it in good conditions...

As for the videos, I think they're largely a product of the fact that cameras have increasingly powerful zooms and higher resolutions, and most people still don't know how to use them properly, or when they're taking pictures/videos of the sky, certainly don't know how to use them to their full potential, and probably have entirely the wrong piece of equipment for the job. The first one doesn't show a "strange image", it shows diffraction rings... if it wasn't diffraction rings, for a camera zoom to enlarge an object that small in the sky that much that fast, it would probably have to be about 200ft away... :rolleyes:

Pete
 

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